Lol talk about tyranical!
You are wrong on so many levels. The amount of times I've been stuck behind a bicyclist on Hambridge Road, I've lost track of! And no it's not the fault of the car, it's the fault of the bicycle. There's no "alleging" in it - it's merely a fact.

Space taken up is not proportionate to the speed travelled, otherwise it would take a lot longer than 7 hours to fly to New York.

But you continue to cause a pool of salty liquid in your underpants, and arrive at work sweaty and smelling of B.O. I'll arrive with a bit of Bill Withers on the radio, in an air conditioned 18 degrees, smelling of eu de toilette.
I do not have an issue with bicylists on the road. My issue is when those bicyclists will not use an empty pavement when they are causing a tailback.

A bicycle is about 2 foot wide with ride on it. An average car 6 ft wide. Hambridge road is, I would estimate, 14-16ft wide, if that. It's enough of a squeeze when a lorry is coming down the road! In rush hour a single cylist causing traffic to tail back at 10-15mph is selfish. Don't you see this?

Try chilling out, there is no need to go as fast as possible for every driving minute.

No, but to drive slower will be less fuel efficient and will increase travelling time by up to 50% or more.


No-one is forcing you to cycle.

Back to my point.
If cycling on the pavement is acceptable (as most would appear to think here) then why not make it legal?
By the way Andy C I see far too many inconsiderate cyclists on pavements (as well as breaking other road laws) so I am afraid I disagree with you.
Maybe we walk on different pavements?

If you read what Betty Swollox posted it states that discression is to be advised. IE if the traffic is unsafe as it is on the Hambridge Road then footpaths may be used.

Try chilling out, there is no need to go as fast as possible for every driving minute.

BTW, if you get to work smelling of BO, then you didn't shower yesterday. BO is caused by stale sweat, not fresh.

No there's not but 15mph is half the limit and therefore possibly dangerous and selfish, one bicycle holding up 50 or 60 cars at half their speed...
Now if a car was to block a bicycle lane the whole world would come to an end, but it's OK for bicycles to do basically the same???

No there's not but 15mph is half the limit and therefore possibly dangerous and selfish, one bicycle holding up 50 or 60 cars at half their speed...
Now if a car was to block a bicycle lane the whole world would come to an end, but it's OK for bicycles to do basically the same???

Roads are for bicycles and cyclists too: they have as much right to use roads, as you do in your motor vehicle.

Oh do they now? Are we talking about what is said by Government or what "really" happens. Pedestrians have right of way in the road but you wouldn't walk out infront of a lorry would you... Because you as bicyclists are legally allowed to ride on the road does not mean you should use that as an excuse to create tailbacks and be a SELFISH [censored]

Because like I said if a car blocked an area used by cyclists you'd probably the first to have a good old moan about it
ps a chilled post.

I use roads to cycle on. It's my right. Unlike yours when you're in a motor vehicle: you use roads by licence.
Blame all the other cars taking up the space, not the cyclist.
Queues on Hambridge Road today today. And not a cyclist in sight, except me.
I scooted through and was away.

It's my right to drive. I am required to meet a minimum standard to be on the roads. I must pay for road tax, I must also carry insurance incase I am injured or be involved in an accident. I must be free from debilitating illness and must be clear minded and sober to drive.

Where as any old fart can ride a bicycle regardless of their mental state, do not carry insurance or even any identification for if involved in an accident.
What irritates me the most about you is the fact that you do not admit that there are situations where bicycles refusing to ride on the pavement can cause issues.

It's my right to drive. I am required to meet a minimum standard to be on the roads. I must pay for road tax, I must also carry insurance incase I am injured or be involved in an accident. I must be free from debilitating illness and must be clear minded and sober to drive.

Where as any old fart can ride a bicycle regardless of their mental state, do not carry insurance or even any identification for if involved in an accident.
What irritates me the most about you is the fact that you do not admit that there are situations where bicycles refusing to ride on the pavement can cause issues.

I do not give a hoot what irritates you.
I will continue to ride on the roads responsibly and obeying the laws, as is my right.
There will always be someone in your way in this crowded island of ours, whether it be in the shops, banks, post offices, or the roads. Don't expect them to get out of the way for you.
Get used to it.

I call riding on the pavement out the way of the rush hour traffic :

a) Considerate
Safe

I do not give a hoot what irritates you.
I will continue to ride on the roads responsibly and obeying the laws, as is my right.

There will always be someone in your way in this crowded island of ours, whether it be in the shops, banks, post offices, or the roads. Don't expect them to get out of the way for you.
Get used to it.

And by the way: you don't pay "Road Tax': no-one does. It's called 'Vehicle Excise Duty' and no-one compels you to pay it. You do so out of choice. You can avoid paying it by using a vehicle which is VED zero-rated. One example of such a vehicle is a bicycle, but there are plenty of others.

Cycling is safe anyway.
Rush hour traffic is often at a standstill. A cycle will often be the fastest moving vehicle in these circumstances.
Rush hour also means that the pavement will be busier with pedestrians going home.
In such circumstances, cycling on a pavement would be highly inconsiderate.

Well blocking the road is not responsible! It's also my right to ram you.



Quite true, although you can mitigate your effect on everyone else by MOVING. Like when someone stops right in the middle of the entrace to some shops to check their phone, that's a completely avoidable delay by MOVING. Again the same as when someone is in the supermarket and leaves their trolley halfway across the isle infront of the milk. Selfish and thoughtless.



By the way, do not lecture me on the technical names of the tax. You, I, and my mate Bob all know it is Road Tax. Can I have some Coke? You don't assume the powdered substance, do you................... And as someone who does upwards of 30,000 miles a year, 20,000 of them business related, I would not be able to ride everywhere or drive in a stupid electric car as I would not get any business done.

All I am saying is that you can ride on the pavement at no negative affect towards you or anyone else, and at the same time helping to ease the flow of traffic on narrow roads during peak periods.

You post on a forum: you get what's coming to you. If you can't take the heat........