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Mar 19 2012, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Mar 19 2012, 10:39 AM) Thanks. Yes, once the hysterical ranting, with its comparison of the gay marriage issue to the abolition of slavery and ending of apartheid has died down, it will be interesting to see how many people have been wronged and our now free to....call their relationship a different name. Simon's taking the mickey, he's not really agreeing with you. He's being a mischievous old Hector.
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Mar 19 2012, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Mar 17 2012, 11:50 AM) Can quite see where you are coming from. Trouble is the CofE is supposed to be a Christian Church - which should be following biblical truths. This isn't probably the right place to expand that here; but its only Bible that would give you the answers you seek. Biblical truth - mmmmmmm. So you think that homosexuals should be executed because the bible says so? Or do you believe in the sixth commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'?
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Mar 19 2012, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Mar 19 2012, 10:45 AM) Simon's taking the mickey, he's not really agreeing with you. He's being a mischievous old Hector. He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up.
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Mar 19 2012, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Mar 19 2012, 10:38 AM) You actually DID say that 'if you join a club you abide by the rules". Is not the Bible the rule book? You just changed clubs until you found a club with an interpretation of the rules that suited you. That doesn't mean that their interpretation is right.
So a religion that had something like this as it's mission statement would probably be ok?
"community service, ministry and outreach to those on the edges, and to promoting human rights, respect for diversity and spiritual enlightenment. We believe all people have a right to express their unique joy and beauty and to expose the forces of bigotry, complacency and guilt that chain the human spirit." Sorry, the club is the particular church you attend. The Bible is the guidelines on how the clubs should operate. All the various religions did some terrible things in the past, in total contrast to the teachings of the bible. It was man who ran the churches (clubs), and it was man who did the terrible things. JC did set down the mission statement with his words. That's what we are following. I don't think you feel that our decision to ask a Hindu to be our son's God Father was a good thing to you. That is something you need to try and understand. It's the child who we brought into Christianity, not the God Father.
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Mar 19 2012, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 19 2012, 10:46 AM) Biblical truth - mmmmmmm.
So you think that homosexuals should be executed because the bible says so?
Or do you believe in the sixth commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'? Many members of society cherry pick those extracts from the bible that suit what whatever they wish to make a statement on and this is helped by the contradictions of the bibles messages. I don't think the choices in the Koran , which is becoming equally important in our society, are so accomodating.
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Mar 19 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Mar 19 2012, 10:56 AM) He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up. Wasn't Hector the male teacher who was discovered sexually fondling a schoolboy? You're saying I'm a paedophile because I support same-sex marriage? Bit strong isn't it?
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Mar 19 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 19 2012, 11:14 AM) Wasn't Hector the male teacher who was discovered sexually fondling a schoolboy? You're saying I'm a paedophile because I support same-sex marriage? Bit strong isn't it? No, I think that was a Roman Catholic priest.
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Mar 19 2012, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 19 2012, 10:18 AM) I'm with Vodabury here. We pander too much to the sensibilities of the loonie left with their Guardian-reading bleeding hearts, it's political correctness gone mad. It's like the blacks; how many of them really wanted to walk on the same pavements or ride in the front of busses in America, and look at all the fuss the namby-pambys made over that, how has that made America a better place? And then there's votes for women; so one or two dry old dikes tied themselves to racehorses and we go and give them all a vote when women only ever wanted to stay at home and do what their husbands told them. And then there's Jeremy Bentham going to all that bother starting a university just so Jews and other heretics could get an education, and I bet half the graduates from UCL write on the Guardian so how has that helped? And what about the abolition of slavery, it put millions of Africans out of work just because William Wilberforce found God, and not the sensible Gof of the Church of England mind, a Guardian-reading namby-pamby God. It's political correctness gone mad. Quite right, you did miss out giving the vote to 'other classes', shocking ! letting the unwashed and uneducated have an opinion went just a little too far.
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Mar 19 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Mar 19 2012, 10:56 AM) He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up. From Wikipedia's entry on "The History Boys": Hector is discovered sexually fondling a boy. So will you explain what aspect of Alan Bennett's Hector you had in mind when you said: "He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up"?
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Mar 19 2012, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 19 2012, 10:46 AM) Biblical truth - mmmmmmm.
So you think that homosexuals should be executed because the bible says so?
Or do you believe in the sixth commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'? Read and understand whole thing - context is all. Commandment No. 1 might hold some of the answer.
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Mar 19 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Mar 19 2012, 09:40 AM) I dont think God is very hung up on ipods or health care. You are speaking of equality from the perspective of what we have, faith teaches that all God's children are born of man and that we all die, so therefore we are all equal. So it's because we all share the same life cycle - eg we are born and then die, that is "equal" in Gods eyes? I don't think that's how life works really. Clearly some are more priveledged than others..quality of life, health, family, etc - there is very little "equality" - you are born and you die which is a fact of science not of God.
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Mar 19 2012, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Mar 19 2012, 10:56 AM) He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up. No, I meant the REAL Hector, hence the 'mischievous old Hector' quote. QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:57 AM) I don't think you feel that our decision to ask a Hindu to be our son's God Father was a good thing to you. Don't be so ruddy silly, I couldn't give a flying f@rt who you got to do the job. I just love the idea of changing your church until you found a set of rules that suited you.
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Mar 19 2012, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 19 2012, 10:46 AM) Biblical truth - mmmmmmm.
So you think that homosexuals should be executed because the bible says so?
Or do you believe in the sixth commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'? I see what you've done here: Commandment #6 is that you must not murder, so that's killing people you hate, killing people that god hates, such as homosexuals, is fine.
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Mar 19 2012, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (Vodabury @ Mar 19 2012, 10:56 AM) He is like Hector - the teacher in Alan Bennet's The History Boys ? Thanks for the heads up. So are you going to explain your reference to the child-abusing teacher in the Alan Bennett play?
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Mar 19 2012, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 19 2012, 02:14 PM) So are you going to explain your reference to the child-abusing teacher in the Alan Bennett play? The only person who has mentioned child-abuse is you. In the play I asked another if he was referring to, all the students were sixth formers and had already passed their A Levels - they were 18-19 years old and doing a "third year sixth". The age of consent is 16. Would you like to explain your post linking my question about gay marriage to racism, sexism and slavery? Or were you only joking? Difficult to know whether you are being serious or not when you post the way you do: QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Mar 19 2012, 10:18 AM) I'm with Vodabury here. We pander too much to the sensibilities of the loonie left with their Guardian-reading bleeding hearts, it's political correctness gone mad. It's like the blacks; how many of them really wanted to walk on the same pavements or ride in the front of busses in America, and look at all the fuss the namby-pambys made over that, how has that made America a better place? And then there's votes for women; so one or two dry old dikes tied themselves to racehorses and we go and give them all a vote when women only ever wanted to stay at home and do what their husbands told them. And then there's Jeremy Bentham going to all that bother starting a university just so Jews and other heretics could get an education, and I bet half the graduates from UCL write on the Guardian so how has that helped? And what about the abolition of slavery, it put millions of Africans out of work just because William Wilberforce found God, and not the sensible Gof of the Church of England mind, a Guardian-reading namby-pamby God. It's political correctness gone mad.
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