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NWNREADER
post Feb 12 2011, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 12 2011, 10:29 PM) *
So as I stated in a previous post underground car park = indoor boating lake if pumps turned off then? tongue.gif


Maybe. That is a techie thing outside my sphere. But it is a question worth asking, and would then beg the question why the issue was not dealt with by any of the army of consultants used in the project......
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post Feb 12 2011, 10:54 PM
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It was well publicised by objectors from what I remember... but West Berks know best ;-)
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Feb 12 2011, 10:54 PM) *
It was well publicised by objectors from what I remember... but West Berks know best ;-)

I do not remember the detail, but my vague recollection is that the objectors did not have the clout of the developers consultants. Maybe another situation where the Planning Officers were confronted with 'evidence' they could not counter in the face of an appeal, so had to let the proposal through. Now it is built the developers shrug their shoulders and move on to the next project.
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:05 PM
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We didn't have to sell the land to the developers...for £1.00

Nothing has been proved yet (to my knowledge), but should the problems be down to this development, the councillors that endorsed this should hang their heads in shame.
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Feb 12 2011, 11:05 PM) *
but should the problems be down to this development, the councillors that endorsed this should hang their heads in shame.


Problem is the Councillors follow Officers advice, usually. If the Members vote out something the Officers have to recommend for approval an appeal will surely follow, which the Council pay for, win or lose.
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 12 2011, 11:15 PM) *
Problem is the Councillors follow Officers advise, usually. If the Members vote out something the Officers have to recommend for approval an appeal will surely follow, which the Council pay for, win or lose.

Then lets save money and get rid of councillors, they are pointless. Or even better, start firing some officers. Bear in mind this is all officially speculation at the moment.
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 12 2011, 10:29 PM) *
So as I stated in a previous post underground car park = indoor boating lake if pumps turned off then? tongue.gif

Shouldn't do IF it was built properly!
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post Feb 12 2011, 11:33 PM
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* Accountability
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post Feb 13 2011, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Feb 12 2011, 11:22 PM) *
Then lets save money and get rid of councillors, they are pointless. Or even better, start firing some officers. Bear in mind this is all officially speculation at the moment.

Or make developers accountable for the guff so many consultants pass off as expert findings. Consultants will always(?) present the case their paymaster asks for, then walk away protected by some E & OE or 'unforeseen circumstance' caveat.
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post Feb 13 2011, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 12 2011, 11:15 PM) *
Problem is the Councillors follow Officers advice, usually. If the Members vote out something the Officers have to recommend for approval an appeal will surely follow, which the Council pay for, win or lose.


So far in this debate I think we can come to the conclusion then that the Planning Department is a waste of time and that councillors are superfluous? Lets save the taxpayer a lot of cash and just let the developers do what they want? OH hang on a minute...... wink.gif


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post Feb 16 2011, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 12 2011, 11:15 PM) *
Problem is the Councillors follow Officers advice, usually. If the Members vote out something the Officers have to recommend for approval an appeal will surely follow, which the Council pay for, win or lose.

In theory the Localism Bill will change this crazy situation - but the cynic in me is not yet convinced.
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post Feb 16 2011, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 12 2011, 11:15 PM) *
Problem is the Councillors follow Officers advice, usually. If the Members vote out something the Officers have to recommend for approval an appeal will surely follow, which the Council pay for, win or lose.

In theory the Localism Bill will change this crazy situation - but the cynic in me is not yet convinced.
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:21 PM
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Has either the crack survey been published or the pumping stopped pumping water into the canal yet? I can't recall reading anything about the cracks and I seem to recall water being pumped into the canal as recently as yesterday. Anyone know what the latest is?
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:27 PM
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Lots of water deep under PW on Sunday. Stream like almost.
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 9 2011, 04:27 PM) *
Lots of water deep under PW on Sunday. Stream like almost.


Do you think the pumping of water will ever stop?
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 9 2011, 04:32 PM) *
Do you think the pumping of water will ever stop?

dunno. There were none of the large pipes used to take water to the canal rising from the open manhole cover where the sound of rushing water was coming from.

It was explained as being to do with the environmentally friendly way in which rainwater is collected & channelled away from the roof.
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 9 2011, 04:39 PM) *
dunno. There were none of the large pipes used to take water to the canal rising from the open manhole cover where the sound of rushing water was coming from.

It was explained as being to do with the environmentally friendly way in which rainwater is collected & channelled away from the roof.


So the rainwater is being pumped into the canal?
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 9 2011, 04:43 PM) *
So the rainwater is being pumped into the canal?

No, the rainwater soaks into the ground, but has to flow there, from the roof to do so.
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:46 PM
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So what water is coming through the big pipe into the canal causing the bubbles?
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post Mar 9 2011, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 9 2011, 04:46 PM) *
So what water is coming through the big pipe into the canal causing the bubbles?

You'd have to ask Costain. The question was not raised on Sunday.

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