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Strafin
post Jul 24 2009, 02:19 PM
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Isn't that just if you're a customer though? As for the resdent parking schemes I disagree strongly with them but if they are in place they should be adhered to, and if you're paying for the privelege, then you should be able to park in whatever space that permit allows. If it isn't tough, everyone else is in the same boat. I have never personally exerienced people parking in my road to go to town for the day, maybe it hapens while I'm at work. When I was a rep I used to park in all sorts of residential areas, normally because I was in unfamiliar places and had to park without prior knowledge of all the restrictions that are put on town centre parking.
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post Jul 24 2009, 02:22 PM
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I also received a ticket last month for parking in a resident bay, on mill lane. I have parked there many times (my cousin lives on Bone Lane), and so did not feel the need to go investigating whether or not the restrictions had changed. As there are no road makings I think it is a little unfair. Northbrook street has no yeloe lines on it, so prior to 10am why wouldn't people assume they were ok to stop? Seems almost like entrapment to me.
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post Jul 24 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 24 2009, 03:22 PM) *
I also received a ticket last month for parking in a resident bay, on mill lane. I have parked there many times (my cousin lives on Bone Lane), and so did not feel the need to go investigating whether or not the restrictions had changed. As there are no road makings I think it is a little unfair. Northbrook street has no yeloe lines on it, so prior to 10am why wouldn't people assume they were ok to stop? Seems almost like entrapment to me.


There are no yellow lines, but there is a warning of this as you enter the road. Additionally thare are "No waiting" signs on just about every post on both sides of the road, so no excuse really.


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post Jul 24 2009, 03:16 PM
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I disagree because it's not standard, if a town wanted all it's roundabouts to be give way to traffic entering (like in france for example), and put signs everywhere, it would still attract massive criticism because it's not in line with everywhere else. If there are no road markings then it's not as per the highway code. I just think it would be better if the road was marked, like EVERYWHERE else.
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post Jul 24 2009, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 24 2009, 03:19 PM) *
Isn't that just if you're a customer though?

No, anyone is allowed to park in Sainsbury's car park for up to two hours (I think that's the time limit, though I've never been there that long) without paying, whether customer or not.

If you want to park longer, you buy a pay and display ticket. I think that's refunded in store if you're shopping there as well.

That's unless it's all changed - I haven't bothered to read the signs lately. In fact one of the "parking enforcers" once said to me that a good trick is to park free for two hours, come back, buy a ticket for the rest of the time you want, then get it refunded in store smile.gif
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post Jul 24 2009, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 24 2009, 04:16 PM) *
I disagree because it's not standard, if a town wanted all it's roundabouts to be give way to traffic entering (like in france for example), and put signs everywhere, it would still attract massive criticism because it's not in line with everywhere else. If there are no road markings then it's not as per the highway code. I just think it would be better if the road was marked, like EVERYWHERE else.


Is is now standard as the law changed to allow controlled zones to have double yellow line status without the actual lines being in place, as stated in the Highway Code...

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You MUST NOT wait or park on yellow lines during the times of operation shown on nearby time plates (or zone entry signs if in a Controlled Parking Zone) – see 'Information signs' and 'Road markings'. Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs.


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post Jul 24 2009, 06:33 PM
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I'll tell you what's a pain.

All that day-long parking at the bottom of Newtown Road (Before the roundabout going into town)

That causes much more of an obstruction problem than some of the parking on this thread that is being ticketed!!

Parking on both sides of the road here means that cars have to brake and wait for the remaining single line of traffic that can get through the gap.

Wast of time, money, petrol and the environment. angry.gif
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post Jul 24 2009, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 24 2009, 06:54 PM) *
Is is now standard as the law changed to allow controlled zones to have double yellow line status without the actual lines being in place, as stated in the Highway Code...

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You MUST NOT wait or park on yellow lines during the times of operation shown on nearby time plates (or zone entry signs if in a Controlled Parking Zone) – see 'Information signs' and 'Road markings'. Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs.

I don't see how you draw your inference from that paragraph. It clearly just says you can't park on yellow lines during the times shown, either on nearby plates or on zone entry signs.
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post Jul 24 2009, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 24 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I'll tell you what's a pain.

All that day-long parking at the bottom of Newtown Road (Before the roundabout going into town)

That causes much more of an obstruction problem than some of the parking on this thread that is being ticketed!!

Parking on both sides of the road here means that cars have to brake and wait for the remaining single line of traffic that can get through the gap.

Wast of time, money, petrol and the environment. angry.gif


To say nothing of the delay when a bus comes along and calls at the bus stop
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post Jul 24 2009, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jul 24 2009, 08:26 PM) *
I don't see how you draw your inference from that paragraph. It clearly just says you can't park on yellow lines during the times shown, either on nearby plates or on zone entry signs.


Simply because the Zone Entry signs are at either end of Northbrook Street clearly stating you are entering a Controlled Parking Zone thereby stating "No Parking" which is backed up by the numerous "No waiting at any time" signs.


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post Jul 24 2009, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 24 2009, 09:00 PM) *
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Simply because the Zone Entry signs are at either end of Northbrook Street clearly stating you are entering a Controlled Parking Zone thereby stating "No Parking" which is backed up by the numerous "No waiting at any time" signs.

I'm not disagreeing in any way that the zone is controlled, or that it is wrong to not have the lines the there, I am just saying that I have never seen this system anywhere else and I think the spirit of the zone is mean at best. Incidentally, there are also parking bays outlined at the top of Newtown Road which are half on the road and half on the pavement, but there are no other markings, so should you park on the roadside and risk a ticket for being outside of a bay, or park on the pavement and get done for that? Or I guess a third option, don't park, Newbury doesn't like cars.
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post Jul 24 2009, 09:03 PM
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And I was just going on what anyone reading the Highway Code who doesn't know Northbrook Street, Newbury would infer from reading it. It's pretty plain English and doesn't cover the case you describe.

(I hope we're not going off-topic here)
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post Jul 25 2009, 11:23 AM
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I"m sure most people who get ticketed,deserve it....parking on - bus-stops - taxi-ranks- double yellows - but, HEY...lets really f**k this council up.....ALL PARK LEGALLY till they have to sack all but a couple of the greenbacks[Alans ok,hes my mate].....2 months of NIL TICKETS and heads will ROLL,ok?
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post Jul 25 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle @ Jul 25 2009, 12:23 PM) *
I"m sure most people who get ticketed,deserve it....parking on - bus-stops - taxi-ranks- double yellows - but, HEY...lets really f**k this council up.....ALL PARK LEGALLY till they have to sack all but a couple of the greenbacks[Alans ok,hes my mate].....2 months of NIL TICKETS and heads will ROLL,ok?

Yes, but you need to get that message across to the others, unfortunately. Everyone on this forum is already 100% law-abiding and never ever parks in the wrong place tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 24 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I'll tell you what's a pain.

All that day-long parking at the bottom of Newtown Road (Before the roundabout going into town)

That causes much more of an obstruction problem than some of the parking on this thread that is being ticketed!!

Parking on both sides of the road here means that cars have to brake and wait for the remaining single line of traffic that can get through the gap.

Wast of time, money, petrol and the environment. angry.gif

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post Jul 25 2009, 03:43 PM
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could not agree more accident waiting to happen
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post Jul 25 2009, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 22 2009, 10:30 AM) *
If the Liberal Democrats have an ounce of sense they will make the reduction of the number of traffic wardens to a level where they are not a burden on the over taxed members of West Berkshire an election pledge.

They will then walk the election. I know literally scores of lifelong tory voters that wil NEVER vote for this incompetent and morally bankrupt council again.

In all honesty is there a genuine council anywhere in this country ? Maybe we should pose this as an open question.
Personally I think they are all cretins,but maybe I'm biased


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post Jul 26 2009, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Uncle @ Jul 25 2009, 12:23 PM) *
I"m sure most people who get ticketed,deserve it....parking on - bus-stops - taxi-ranks- double yellows - but, HEY...lets really f**k this council up.....ALL PARK LEGALLY till they have to sack all but a couple of the greenbacks[Alans ok,hes my mate].....2 months of NIL TICKETS and heads will ROLL,ok?


Sorry Uncle, that just makes far too much sense laugh.gif Newbury would never understand it!
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Hugh Saskin
post Jul 26 2009, 01:10 PM
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They've been particulary active today (Sunday) as returning from the jolly little waterways festival, I saw at least ten cars with fixed penalty notices attached to the windscreens in the coach park by the library. Either chancers or people who didn't realise that the area is for coaches and other permit holders seven days a week, I suppose. Whatever, an expensive trip into town for those unfortunates.
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:27 PM
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Another car just missed being embedded on a bollard. And the only reason for that was the driver dithered.
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