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ossy1
post Aug 29 2010, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Roost @ Aug 29 2010, 07:57 PM) *
Not sure anyone's actually answered Ossy's q about whether these 'armed police' actually had their guns out!

Way I understand it is similar to JayJay.

'Armed' police are police officers that are trained in use of firearms and have 'close' access to such firearms.

They do still attend the standard and more basic jobs that other police attend and will be wearing their holsters and other kit but should not regularly be waving those firearms around unless it is a firearms job.

Could be wrong of course!


You are correct unless of course you are at an airport or other such similar site then will be armed all the time.
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post Aug 29 2010, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Aug 29 2010, 08:06 PM) *
No one is saying they have been in this case.



Are you saying I misread? If that is the case then I am sorry for misreading. I have to go out so I have not got the time to go back and check.
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post Aug 29 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (HeatherW @ Aug 29 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Are you saying I misread? If that is the case then I am sorry for misreading. I have to go out so I have not got the time to go back and check.


TDH has not clarified what he saw. We are not sure if he was saying there was an armed response vehicle in the street or he actually saw officers with guns which to be fair if that was the case Nwn would have something in the news section .
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post Aug 29 2010, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Aug 29 2010, 06:15 PM) *
What are you surprised about exactly, police officers attending incidents????? What ever next!

That's a gross over-reaction to my comment.

I expressed surprise that armed police officers would attend an ordinary incident. Surely I am entitled to be surprised, since we don't live in the wild west, and the police here when I last looked are not routinely armed.
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post Aug 29 2010, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 29 2010, 09:49 PM) *
That's a gross over-reaction to my comment.

I expressed surprise that armed police officers would attend an ordinary incident. Surely I am entitled to be surprised, since we don't live in the wild west, and the police here when I last looked are not routinely armed.


No there not so i'm not sure why the surprise that they would muck in, surely you wouldnt want them sat around waiting for an incident that required them.
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post Aug 29 2010, 10:03 PM
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Of course not! I was only surprised that they would go in armed (hence "armed police" = "police carrying arms" as opposed to "unarmed police") if arms were not required for the incident being attended.

I think we are talking somewhat at cross purposes here!

Perhaps its just a question of semantics: to me an armed policeman (or woman!) is one with a gun in his/her holster, or carrying a firearm.
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post Aug 29 2010, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 29 2010, 07:46 PM) *
Quite right and you are not patronising or abusive. Please don't give up because its actually good to know that; our Police are human, they are willing to talk up to support the service on their own account, they feel able to do so. We aren't your 'customers' the Queen is - you are charged with keeping her peace. Actually a different requirement than simply to catch law breakers. The difference is between a monarchy and a police state. I know what I'd rather live under.

So we're still going with the laughable notion that Ossy is a copper then??? Despite being barely able to write in English, showing up a complete lack of knowledge regarding the roads, especially with the trucks on motorways thread, and basically throwing a strop anytime anyone mentions the police, be it TVP, transport, or traffic.
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post Aug 29 2010, 11:28 PM
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lorrys on the motorway? What are you talking about?

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post Aug 30 2010, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 30 2010, 12:23 AM) *
So we're still going with the laughable notion that Ossy is a copper then??? Despite being barely able to write in English, showing up a complete lack of knowledge regarding the roads, especially with the trucks on motorways thread, and basically throwing a strop anytime anyone mentions the police, be it TVP, transport, or traffic.


And why not? They can't all have degrees! rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 30 2010, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 30 2010, 12:23 AM) *
So we're still going with the laughable notion that Ossy is a copper then??? Despite being barely able to write in English, showing up a complete lack of knowledge regarding the roads, especially with the trucks on motorways thread, and basically throwing a strop anytime anyone mentions the police, be it TVP, transport, or traffic.



When people come on here with aliases it is almost impossible to find out what they really are/ do, some will come on here because forums are the only way to play Superman or girl. Some lead dull boring lives and by being on here they can spruce those lives up by saying whatever they like. It gives some a tingle, a feel of superority. If Ozzy wants to come on here and be a policeman/ girl (whether she is or not) then why not? We don't have to accept it and anything they say (i.e. if they claim to be a policeman etc) can be verified or challenged. Nevertheless, and saying that, there are those that are easily taken in by what people say and it is the vulnerable we've got to be concerned about.

Ozzy did allow us to know that she is a policeman/ girl so she obviously has a motive for letting us know; i.e. bringing her profession on here. I suppose it all adds to the spice of things. I've been on many forums where I've been privilaged to debate with Tony Blair, the Queen, Stalin and even God himself, so a policewoman is only a couple of steps down the ladder.
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post Aug 30 2010, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 30 2010, 08:01 AM) *
And why not? They can't all have degrees! rolleyes.gif



If we still had a labour government then that might have changed.
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post Aug 30 2010, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 30 2010, 10:13 AM) *
When people come on here with aliases it is almost impossible to find out what they really are/ do, some will come on here because forums are the only way to play Superman or girl. Some lead dull boring lives and by being on here they can spruce those lives up by saying whatever they like. It gives some a tingle, a feel of superority. If Ozzy wants to come on here and be a policeman/ girl (whether she is or not) then why not? We don't have to accept it and anything they say (i.e. if they claim to be a policeman etc) can be verified or challenged. Nevertheless, and saying that, there are those that are easily taken in by what people say and it is the vulnerable we've got to be concerned about.

Ozzy did allow us to know that she is a policeman/ girl so she obviously has a motive for letting us know; i.e. bringing her profession on here. I suppose it all adds to the spice of things. I've been on many forums where I've been privilaged to debate with Tony Blair, the Queen, Stalin and even God himself, so a policewoman is only a couple of steps down the ladder.


Oh GMR please get over this, it is in danger if cropping up in every post and is now getting really boring. I really do not care who does what for a living.
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post Aug 30 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Aug 30 2010, 06:08 PM) *
Oh GMR please get over this, it is in danger if cropping up in every post and is now getting really boring. I really do not care who does what for a living.


Actually there is nothing to get over. I replied to the previous post. Forums are not there for one mans liking, but for various ideas, thoughts, rants, debates and many other reasons. However, as free thinking people we all have a right to choose which posts we wish to read or ignore.

There are many posts on here and other forums where I think we are going down the same road again, or this is boring... but I recognise the posters right to express themselves as they see fit (so long as they are not abusive). So I either ignore certain named threads, the poster or something else, but what I won't do is dictate what I expect from another member; I recognise that he or she is a free agent on a free forum, and without that free expression we have a dictatorship by the few.
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post Aug 30 2010, 06:38 PM
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That should teach Jayjay from piping-up! tongue.gif
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post Aug 30 2010, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Aug 30 2010, 06:08 PM) *
Oh GMR please get over this, it is in danger if cropping up in every post and is now getting really boring. I really do not care who does what for a living.
Too right. I'm have no interest in who anyone is, just the opinions they post.


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post Aug 30 2010, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Aug 30 2010, 08:03 PM) *
Too right. I'm have no interest in who anyone is, just the opinions they post.


If you read the post; albeit carefully (!), don't think GMR is either. I take by that he means Duke or Dustman he feels at liberty to take a tilt. Thats the way it is with freedom! wink.gif


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post Aug 30 2010, 08:57 PM
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GMR i assume your rant is about me again?
In which case it may be wise if you refer to me by actual name, thats ossy not ozzy.

May sound pedantic but there is another forum member called ozzy, best not to confuse those that don't know better or upset ozzy.

Thanks, ossy!!
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post Aug 30 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Aug 30 2010, 09:57 PM) *
GMR i assume your rant is about me again?

It wasn't a rant, but just responding to another poster. I see these forums as just a tool; we are all here for different reasons, but whatever they are we shouldn't get upset, but enjoy. The beauty of forums is their differences. Nothing more, nothing less. Your worth, is the same as my worth; to entertain, educate, learn, debate and enjoy.

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In which case it may be wise if you refer to me by actual name, thats ossy not ozzy.

You are correct, i wrote without really taking in the names. I know that can be annoying, but wasn't intentional and I can only apologise and try not to let it happen again.

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May sound pedantic but there is another forum member called ozzy, best not to confuse those that don't know better or upset ozzy.

Thanks, ossy!!


Don't worry about being 'pedantic' as we all suffer from that from time to time. Again your point taken and I'll try to be more observant next time.

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post Aug 31 2010, 08:22 AM
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I am just suprised that this has not made the News. The windows are now boarded up on the house that was raided so they did not just 'knock on the door'. Come on NWN - get to the bottom of whats going on in Newbury. There are also steel shutters over the Windows of a house in St Michaels Road. Are the Police by chance carrying out some sort of dawn raids operation on a certain 'element' that now frequents South Newbury... wink.gif
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:13 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14392

The Armed Police were not armed.... blink.gif
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