Ever tried white-lining in a car??

Sounds like it is going to be quite confusing for a while so we will have to be extra vigilant with people unintentionally being in the wrong lane and cutting across but yes horns are going to be honking. Mind you they already are and tempers boiling over with the temporary traffic lights....

Presumably only after 7? The normal lights have been operational whenever I've been through there.

It would be nice if they linked the crossing lights with the roundabout lights, though I doubt if they will. It's pretty frustrating sitting at a red light at the empty crossing and watching the lights on the roundabout change to green and back to red.

They are already linked as they traffic control and crossing lights are one and the same.

Edit: I've just realised the ones you mean. As they are pedestrian-controlled, I doubt it..

Yes I mean the lights they are setting up after 7 when the town comes to a standstill !!

Not sure about linking the crossing lights with the roundabout lights all that was said was:-

This will also enable the council to resurface the carriageway, update the traffic signal controller and create new road markings and traffic signs.

[Edit: this is a reply to Darren's post]
Yes I suppose I could have been clearer - as you realised I meant the crossing by the pedestrian exit from Sainsbury's.

The crossings on the roundabout have push buttons for pedestrians (do they actually achieve anything?), too, so I am sure it is technologically possible to integrate the independent crossing with the main lights in some way.

yes they do - they make it safe for people who want to cross the road.

How do push buttons which as far as I can see don't actually do anything, make it safer when the lights will change following the normal roundabout sequence anyway?

because people will wait for the lights to change after they have pushed the button.

And like a lift button, the more you press it, the faster it changes.

And they won't wait for the lights to change unless they have a placebo button to press?

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YOU suggested this was the way to behave on the road!
It's written quite plainly in black & white which lane to be in - where's the confusion?



I do have one and the driving you suggest people to use annoys me just as much in that!

Exactly, I said you have to not I have to.


I never recommended anything.


Who said anything about being confused?


Never suggested anything, only that when it is grid locked, anything goes.

You used "you" in the first person.
(Post 58)


Again post 58 "you have to" (OK this time in the third person you can't have it both ways - which is it?)


Post 60


Contradicting yourself there.

Post 21 covers the lot!

Nice one!! Perhaps the little screen should have fruit machine symbols in it, might encourage some to wait.

That is your interpretation of an ambiguous statement.


'You have to' is not a recommendation; it is an observation in the second person plural.


OK, the council have decided to confuse the driver by changing the layout. Even if the layout is visible, this still will confuse because it is a change. Sadly, most drivers aren't as observant and brilliant as you at driving and all the discipline that involves. Fortunately, you and some others are very good drivers and riders and can avoid accidents when other useless drivers get it wrong.


I am if you don't understand that I was joking. I thought it might make a change from all the posts describing wonderful lane discipline. Although there have been times in the past where I might have done it on occasion when I have cocked-up. I doubt few haven't if they were to be honest. Especially, if you have over 120bhp from the twist grip!

Anyway you're not the only one Iommi - just saw a police car with two officers in it turn right by the cinema from Market Street into Cheap Street!

I totally agree - they have got this completely WRONG! - Mill Lane is a left turn <i>off of Kings Road</i> and not directly off of the roundabout, therefore people were perfectly correct in using the left lane to exit onto Kings Road and then take the first left onto Mill Lane. However it would seem the town planners have got this wrong creating more confusion as the left lane now is only for Mill Lane which is not an exit off of the roundabout!

However (devil's advocate hat on here) the right hand lane is more in a direct line with the road down to Sainsbury's.

From the left lane (with the previous convention), you had to deliberately move over to the right, i.e. change lanes, to avoid traffic waiting to turn left into Mill Lane (possible held up by the crossing) when continuing on to Sainsbury's.

All in all, I think the new arrangement is better - I followed that today turning right from the A339, and didn't get into any arguments . In fact I got away more quickly since the right lane at the second lights was empty.

I went around the roundabout this morning for the first time. It all seemed perfectly obvious which lane to be in. I can't see why anyone would get it wrong.