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Apr 2 2019, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 2 2019, 07:22 PM) Oh dear. If it’s a trap, JC will walk. He isn’t stupid and I reckon he’ll be believed. Dear God... he is a socialist. That by very definition makes him stupid.
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Apr 2 2019, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 2 2019, 06:22 PM) Oh dear. If it’s a trap, JC will walk. He isn’t stupid and I reckon he’ll be believed. He's lost a lot of grass roots support, his generation X support is withering and all he wants now is a term as pm. If he can be handled the right way he can be shown to be a bumbling Marxist who wouldn't play ball to save the country. Yeah, he is that stupid. Give a Marxist enough rope and all that. Never know he might get miss Dianne to do the sums on it.
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Apr 3 2019, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 2 2019, 11:45 PM) He's lost a lot of grass roots support, his generation X support is withering and all he wants now is a term as pm. If he can be handled the right way he can be shown to be a bumbling Marxist who wouldn't play ball to save the country. Yeah, he is that stupid. Give a Marxist enough rope and all that. Never know he might get miss Dianne to do the sums on it. We’ll see.
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Apr 3 2019, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 3 2019, 05:02 AM) We’ll see. I find it hilarious that you and your ilk constantly berate and belittle the 'baby boomer' generation yet get all squirmy and moist at the thought of having a seventy year old in number ten.
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Apr 3 2019, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 3 2019, 12:17 PM) I find it hilarious that you and your ilk constantly berate and belittle the 'baby boomer' generation yet get all squirmy and moist at the thought of having a seventy year old in number ten. I don't like JC so I'm not sure what you mean. He's too left wing. I'm not even a Labour voter really. If I am, I'm certainly a lot more mainstream on the whole although I agree with much JC says on foreign policy. I'm a floating voter I think.
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Apr 3 2019, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 3 2019, 05:02 AM) We’ll see. From t' Guardian. "Challenged on why she's willing to negotiate with Corbyn, PM repeatedly points to what they agree on - including the fact he wants Britain to leave the EU with a deal. Clear that part of Downing Street's strategy here is to heap pressure/blame for the Brexit mess on Labour."
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Apr 3 2019, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 3 2019, 12:17 PM) I find it hilarious that you and your ilk constantly berate and belittle the 'baby boomer' generation yet get all squirmy and moist at the thought of having a seventy year old in number ten. Not all baby boomers are to blame for the collective decisions that were made in the past e.g. Beeching cuts in the same way that not all of Generation X are feckless layabouts. I would have no problem with a seventy something year old in charge if it were to be Vince Cable but like newres I have absolutely no time for Jeremy Corbyn and the other left wing lunatics currently in charge of Labour. However, I am quite interested to see what the new Change UK party come up with in terms of policies.
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Apr 3 2019, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 3 2019, 07:35 PM) I'm with Derek, I would rather put my hand in a liquidiser and give the on / off switch to newres than put up with anymore of this nonsense. Seriously, ******* stay or go, I'm past caring, just do something, anything! That's been the plan all along. Make the Brexiteers give up. Bit stupid really as this will come back to haunt them. The repercussions will be huge...
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Apr 4 2019, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 3 2019, 09:24 PM) That's been the plan all along. Make the Brexiteers give up. Bit stupid really as this will come back to haunt them. The repercussions will be huge... Such as?
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Apr 4 2019, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 3 2019, 07:35 PM) I'm with Derek, I would rather put my hand in a liquidiser and give the on / off switch to newres than put up with anymore of this nonsense. Seriously, ******* stay or go, I'm past caring, just do something, anything! Just so you know, I wouldn’t switch it on so you’re quite safe.
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Apr 4 2019, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 1 2019, 02:44 PM) I guess you believe that religion should be banned then.🤣 I believe it should stop being used as a reason to do anything, and it should be removed from schools and have nothing to do with any state decisions.
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Apr 4 2019, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Apr 1 2019, 05:02 PM) Wholly agree but how dare you imply comments I've made are not true. What proof do you or anyone else need? Signed affidavits, entries from Hansard, published papers or what? Past experience here demonstrates that even if paths are provided, certain posters with closed minds still won't open. If we take the Irish border question, then that is actually dealt with in a technical paper created by the EU dealing with potential consequences of the UKs exit - go find. The very nature of politics means that there will be often wildly different interpretations of what appear at first sight to be clear and correct information - which time and again is proved unclear and incorrect. Most people are also beginning to realise that the web or Google is not the sole or indeed an infallible source. So for me, political debate is only possible with people who are able to respond with a reasoned grounded reply and not simply insults when their own views are challenged. I can only conclude that isn't likely to happen here. I haven't been particularly specific so if you feel that it applies to you then that's your issue. If you can't prove something or at least point us in the direction of where the information is, then why would anyone believe you? It's as good as the old "a bloke down the pub told me" opener to all sorts of nonsense and urban myths that we don't have anymore.
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Apr 4 2019, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 4 2019, 10:39 AM) I haven't been particularly specific so if you feel that it applies to you then that's your issue. If you can't prove something or at least point us in the direction of where the information is, then why would anyone believe you? It's as good as the old "a bloke down the pub told me" opener to all sorts of nonsense and urban myths that we don't have anymore. We shall of course hold you to your own high standards in the future. Interested to learn that we don't have urban myths anymore, care to reference that assertion?
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Apr 4 2019, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 4 2019, 04:51 AM) Such as? I think that one argument is that the public will lose faith in democracy and there will be rioting in the streets etc. I don't really buy it myself because people often vote for political parties on the basis of what is in their manifesto and often these promises are either broken, watered down or delayed. Granted, this is a bit more high profile than most of those promises and the vote for it was a bit more direct than usual but most people are fairly used to being lied to and generally let down by politicians.
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Apr 4 2019, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Apr 4 2019, 01:26 PM) I think that one argument is that the public will lose faith in democracy and there will be rioting in the streets etc. I don't really buy it myself because people often vote for political parties on the basis of what is in their manifesto and often these promises are either broken, watered down or delayed. Granted, this is a bit more high profile than most of those promises and the vote for it was a bit more direct than usual but most people are fairly used to being lied to and generally let down by politicians. I know of a lot of people who will be writing what they feel on the next election ballot paper. You will have thousands of spoiled ballots and massive queues at voting centres. If will be chaos.
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