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post Aug 6 2018, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 6 2018, 08:10 PM) *
It’s a money raiser, not a saver; to plug a funding gap.
It could well be. One council has all but gone bust, another is heading that way, with more county councils rumoured to be not far off. WBC being a unitary can charge for luxury services like this, so it has more money to fund social care for the elderly, or protecting vulnerable children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45058677
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post Aug 6 2018, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 6 2018, 09:10 PM) *
It’s a money raiser, not a saver; to plug a funding gap.


But only if enough people opt, or can afford, to pay for it. And with all the suggestions that it will increase the already increasing fly tipping it may actually cost more perhaps? unsure.gif


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post Aug 20 2018, 08:44 AM
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You've probably all seen this, but just in case you haven't.....
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post Aug 20 2018, 02:35 PM
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If you require a second green bin, it's £70 as they have an admin charge for more than one!
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post Aug 20 2018, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 20 2018, 03:35 PM) *
If you require a second green bin, it's £70 as they have an admin charge for more than one!


It could be worse. You could be living across the border in Hampshire where you only get two sacks and no bin for £35 per year, plus £17.50 per additional sack:

https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/gardenwaste

All other local districts/counties/boroughs have a similar charge for a similar service so really we should be grateful that we are one of the last areas to implement this and have therefore managed to avoid paying this charge for longer than most. Of course you can still dispose of green waste yourself for free at the tip so you are paying for the convenience of not having to do that.
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post Aug 20 2018, 03:55 PM
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some fair and good points there James!
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post Aug 20 2018, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 20 2018, 04:55 PM) *
some fair and good points there James!

Agreed. I’m in two minds about it tbh. Why not an option to pay for a weekly black bin collection as it would be better value?
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post Aug 20 2018, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 20 2018, 03:35 PM) *
If you require a second green bin, it's £70 as they have an admin charge for more than one!


You can have mine for 50. One careful owner and now surplus to requirement. Delivery extra. cool.gif


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post Aug 20 2018, 07:04 PM
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So I am an elderly resident who no longer drives, ( tip not an option ), my only income is the state pension, ( £50/year is not within my annual budget I'm afraid ), but I do enjoy my garden even though it is only a front one and therefore a compost heap is not acceptable. So what am I supposed to do?
The above scenario is hypothetical but I am sure quite a few who fall in the above category will feel pressured in to coughing up the money even though they may disagree in principle.


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post Aug 20 2018, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Aug 20 2018, 04:33 PM) *
It could be worse. You could be living across the border in Hampshire where you only get two sacks and no bin for £35 per year, plus £17.50 per additional sack:

https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/gardenwaste

All other local districts/counties/boroughs have a similar charge for a similar service so really we should be grateful that we are one of the last areas to implement this and have therefore managed to avoid paying this charge for longer than most. Of course you can still dispose of green waste yourself for free at the tip so you are paying for the convenience of not having to do that.


We aren't supposed to notice 'harminisation'. It will take a wee while but nationally, all refuse collection arrangements are slowly being harmonised. Bit of a debate about 'wheeled bins v plastic sacks but that's being sorted. Round here, the sophisticated inter authority accounting methods between councils to pay for dumps have been stripped out. We then get a basic arrangement, same nationwide that gets put out to a central agency......even less reason for WBC to exist!


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post Aug 28 2018, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 20 2018, 08:04 PM) *
So I am an elderly resident who no longer drives, ( tip not an option ), my only income is the state pension, ( £50/year is not within my annual budget I'm afraid ), but I do enjoy my garden even though it is only a front one and therefore a compost heap is not acceptable. So what am I supposed to do?
The above scenario is hypothetical but I am sure quite a few who fall in the above category will feel pressured in to coughing up the money even though they may disagree in principle.
An elderly resident 'probably' doesn't fill the black bin in two weeks. I suspect they'd have room for a bag or three of garden waste if they only had a small front garden.

Front garden would be full of garden gnomes and other such tat that the elderly enjoy anyway.
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post Aug 28 2018, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 28 2018, 06:50 PM) *
An elderly resident 'probably' doesn't fill the black bin in two weeks. I suspect they'd have room for a bag or three of garden waste if they only had a small front garden.

Front garden would be full of garden gnomes and other such tat that the elderly enjoy anyway.

Unlike your's which is no doubt filled with old lager tins, doorless fridges and piles of faeces from your rotweiller. because that's what you people enjoy anyway.
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post Aug 29 2018, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 28 2018, 10:04 PM) *
Unlike your's which is no doubt filled with old lager tins, doorless fridges and piles of faeces from your rotweiller. because that's what you people enjoy anyway.
A bit presumptuous... accurate, but presumptuous. Touchy though aren't we? . Do you have a collection of gnomes that you're a bit over-protective of? Wind chimes as well no doubt and 3ft plastic 'butterfly' things nailed to the front of the house and a 'dreamcatcher' behind those grotty net curtains of yours....


Anyway how come you're able to get online and comment? I thought you'd been banged up for running a brothel full of Vietnamese nail painters at your gaff...
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post Aug 29 2018, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 28 2018, 06:50 PM) *
An elderly resident 'probably' doesn't fill the black bin in two weeks. I suspect they'd have room for a bag or three of garden waste if they only had a small front garden.

Front garden would be full of garden gnomes and other such tat that the elderly enjoy anyway.


I was under the impression that we, (the tax payer), were under an obligation to segregate green from general waste? Makes a complete mockery of an already shaky system if we are going to send everything to landfill.
Incidentally my gnomes have moved out on the premise, as yet unfounded, that any brexit deal will disadvantage their civil liberties.


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post Aug 29 2018, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 29 2018, 10:22 AM) *
I was under the impression that we, (the tax payer), were under an obligation to segregate green from general waste? Makes a complete mockery of an already shaky system if we are going to send everything to landfill.
Incidentally my gnomes have moved out on the premise, as yet unfounded, that any brexit deal will disadvantage their civil liberties.


Nope.

Councils have re-cycling targets and govt 'fines' if they don't do enough.

There is no legal duty to re-cycle on the individual.
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post Aug 30 2018, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 29 2018, 09:50 AM) *
A bit presumptuous... accurate, but presumptuous. Touchy though aren't we? . Do you have a collection of gnomes that you're a bit over-protective of? Wind chimes as well no doubt and 3ft plastic 'butterfly' things nailed to the front of the house and a 'dreamcatcher' behind those grotty net curtains of yours....


Anyway how come you're able to get online and comment? I thought you'd been banged up for running a brothel full of Vietnamese nail painters at your gaff...

Presumptuous? Moi? And how is life on the Turnpike these days? still eking out an existence selling drugs outside the school gates are you? How's that going?
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post Aug 31 2018, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 29 2018, 10:22 AM) *
Incidentally my gnomes have moved out on the premise, as yet unfounded, that any brexit deal will disadvantage their civil liberties.

I think you will find the term gnome is offensive. They're vertically challenged.
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post Sep 1 2018, 06:03 AM
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Yesterday, in bitterness and resentment I had to give the council £50 so my green bin will carry on being emptied. There seemed no other choice, Trekinng to the dump every time there was garden waste (hard work and inconvenient), using the black bin (it is often pretty full anyway) fly tipping (not nice) were considered and rejected.

The gentlemen and ladies of the ruling party may come to regret this new levy come next election time. I sincerely hope so!
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post Sep 1 2018, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (regor @ Sep 1 2018, 07:03 AM) *
Yesterday, in bitterness and resentment I had to give the council £50 so my green bin will carry on being emptied. There seemed no other choice, Trekinng to the dump every time there was garden waste (hard work and inconvenient), using the black bin (it is often pretty full anyway) fly tipping (not nice) were considered and rejected.

The gentlemen and ladies of the ruling party may come to regret this new levy come next election time. I sincerely hope so!


A very much local vox pop on the matter resulted in 4 saying no, 2 were paying and 1 didn't know anything about it. I think once it has settled down those turkeys who voted for xmas will do so again as those who objected will have forgotten this little fracas and be happily travelling up to newtown road twice a month.


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post Sep 1 2018, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (regor @ Sep 1 2018, 07:03 AM) *
Yesterday, in bitterness and resentment I had to give the council £50 so my green bin will carry on being emptied. There seemed no other choice, Trekinng to the dump every time there was garden waste (hard work and inconvenient), using the black bin (it is often pretty full anyway) fly tipping (not nice) were considered and rejected.

The gentlemen and ladies of the ruling party may come to regret this new levy come next election time. I sincerely hope so!

Doubt it; there’s plenty of Tory support in Newbs. £3 worth of builders sacks and an occasional trip to the tip is no hardship. I’d have happily paid £5 a month more, but I’m not doing £50 on the nose; it’s regressive. I’d rather be out of pocket.
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