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Jul 20 2018, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jul 19 2018, 04:55 PM) Stoke's the north west. It's practically Cheshire. Bit like saying Carlisle is nearly Scotland. Staffordshire has always been a Midlands county and I see no point in changing it.
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Jul 21 2018, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 20 2018, 08:25 PM) Is Bristol the South West? 😂 Well it's south west of Stoke on Trent...........Just
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Aug 1 2018, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 1 2018, 12:24 PM) The good old Secret Barrister is taking one **** of a beating on his twitter feed.😂 Bliss. At last common sense prevails. The secret bootyhole is a, well, bootyhole.
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Aug 1 2018, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 1 2018, 12:24 PM) The good old Secret Barrister is taking one **** of a beating on his twitter feed.😂 I'm sure if he felt that way he'd probably just delete twitter.
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Aug 1 2018, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 1 2018, 02:12 PM) I'm sure if he felt that way he'd probably just delete twitter. He deserves every bit of abuse going his way. Stuck up **** cutter.
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Aug 1 2018, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 1 2018, 02:20 PM) He deserves every bit of abuse going his way. Stuck up **** cutter. He doesn't. All he did was uphold the law.
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Aug 1 2018, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 1 2018, 01:11 PM) Bliss. At last common sense prevails. The secret bootyhole is a, well, bootyhole. Well, I can't say that I agree with Tommy Robinsons methods or approach, but the news about his successful appeal restores some faith in British Justice.
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Aug 2 2018, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 1 2018, 09:13 PM) Well, I can't say that I agree with Tommy Robinsons methods or approach, but the news about his successful appeal restores some faith in British Justice. Succesful appeal? Not really, it's only the method of the trial that has been questioned and he still has to face a judge over the incident.
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Aug 2 2018, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 2 2018, 10:07 AM) Succesful appeal? Not really, it's only the method of the trial that has been questioned and he still has to face a judge over the incident. That an appeal was allowed was success. Inspite of what many think appeals are by no means automatic and there has to be a pretty good case for one. Here, which is frankly disturbing, the issue was with the judge. At least Tommy Robinson has another chance. Of course, he might not succeed, but for a change the decision might be made on strict law.
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Aug 2 2018, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 2 2018, 04:45 PM) That an appeal was allowed was success. Inspite of what many think appeals are by no means automatic and there has to be a pretty good case for one. Here, which is frankly disturbing, the issue was with the judge. At least Tommy Robinson has another chance. Of course, he might not succeed, but for a change the decision might be made on strict law. The judge seen laughing with policeman as he was taken down? Not biased at all... Can you imagine if that had been a none white and the judge was seen laugjhing?
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Aug 3 2018, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 2 2018, 06:35 PM) The judge seen laughing with policeman as he was taken down? Not biased at all... Can you imagine if that had been a none white and the judge was seen laugjhing? Thats just ridiculous, that could have been absolutely anything - you've never laughed with someone who works in the same place? However the appeals process is there for a reason, and in this case it has worked in Tommy's favour. I don't generally agree with the bloke, I think hes horrible, but he's a person like the rest of us and he has the same rights. If he has been wronged, it needs to be rectified.
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Aug 3 2018, 03:28 PM
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Lovely bloke.
April 2005 conviction for assaulting an off-duty police officer According to Searchlight magazine, Lennon was convicted in April 2005 for assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Lennon had assaulted an off-duty police officer who had intervened to stop a confrontation between Lennon and his partner Jenna Vowles, another BNP member, who was cautioned for possession of cocaine.[2][8]
June 2011 arrest for brawling In June 2011 he was arrested in connection with a brawl at an EDL demonstration. July 2011 arrest for brawling The following month he was sentenced to twelve months of "community rehabilitation" for his front-line role in a fight between rival football hooligans, to which he responded that the country is a "police state."
May 2012 underage Twitter incident In May 2012, Lennon took some time to comment on the body of a 15-year old on Twitter:[12]
On 20 October 2012 Lennon was arrested on suspicion of possessing a false passport (under the name "Andrew McMaster"), and, after spending Christmas in jail, was found guilty in January 2013.
November 2013 arrest for mortgage fraud In November 2013, he was convicted of mortgage fraud[18] and sentenced in January 2014 to 18 months imprisonment.[19] He had conspired with a crooked mortgage broker, Deborah Rothschild, and others, to obtain mortgages under false pretences. Robinson obtained £160,000 over a period of 6 months; Rothschild helped her co-conspirators obtain a total of £640,000 and she was also jailed for 18 months.[20] He was released on parole in June 2014, again with conditions barring him from contact with the EDL.[21] Much of his sentence was spent in solitary confinement for his own protection.
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Aug 3 2018, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 3 2018, 04:28 PM) Lovely bloke.
April 2005 conviction for assaulting an off-duty police officer According to Searchlight magazine, Lennon was convicted in April 2005 for assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Lennon had assaulted an off-duty police officer who had intervened to stop a confrontation between Lennon and his partner Jenna Vowles, another BNP member, who was cautioned for possession of cocaine.[2][8]
June 2011 arrest for brawling In June 2011 he was arrested in connection with a brawl at an EDL demonstration. July 2011 arrest for brawling The following month he was sentenced to twelve months of "community rehabilitation" for his front-line role in a fight between rival football hooligans, to which he responded that the country is a "police state."
May 2012 underage Twitter incident In May 2012, Lennon took some time to comment on the body of a 15-year old on Twitter:[12]
On 20 October 2012 Lennon was arrested on suspicion of possessing a false passport (under the name "Andrew McMaster"), and, after spending Christmas in jail, was found guilty in January 2013.
November 2013 arrest for mortgage fraud In November 2013, he was convicted of mortgage fraud[18] and sentenced in January 2014 to 18 months imprisonment.[19] He had conspired with a crooked mortgage broker, Deborah Rothschild, and others, to obtain mortgages under false pretences. Robinson obtained £160,000 over a period of 6 months; Rothschild helped her co-conspirators obtain a total of £640,000 and she was also jailed for 18 months.[20] He was released on parole in June 2014, again with conditions barring him from contact with the EDL.[21] Much of his sentence was spent in solitary confinement for his own protection. Yes. Not nice at all; which is why it is essential that any case brought against him, or anyone else for that matter must be tried properly and fairly. The basis of English law. So, when a potential error was found in his most recent trial which could have adversley affected the outcome, he'll have another day in Court. I don't like Tommy Robinson, but that he's been given his appeal makes me very pleased we are still governed under English law.
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Aug 3 2018, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 3 2018, 07:19 PM) Yes. Not nice at all; which is why it is essential that any case brought against him, or anyone else for that matter must be tried properly and fairly. The basis of English law. So, when a potential error was found in his most recent trial which could have adversley affected the outcome, he'll have another day in Court. I don't like Tommy Robinson, but that he's been given his appeal makes me very pleased we are still governed under English law. Whereas with newres its guilty until proved innocent for anyone who doesn't follow his ahem "liberal multi cultural" views. I expect like Lammy he blames white middle class people for all the black gang deaths in London. Nothing to do with Somali gangs upping the level of violence or so called drill music. No its Mr Smith in Tonbridge Wells who is the root cause as he tried coke once.😮
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Aug 3 2018, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 3 2018, 07:45 PM) Whereas with newres its guilty until proved innocent for anyone who doesn't follow his ahem "liberal multi cultural" views. I expect like Lammy he blames white middle class people for all the black gang deaths in London. Nothing to do with Somali gangs upping the level of violence or so called drill music. No its Mr Smith in Tonbridge Wells who is the root cause as he tried coke once.😮 Jeez, you sound like a Southern redneck blaming Elvis Presley’s hip gyrations. Anyway I think it’s scary that you hold up a thug like that as a hero.
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