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> Halal, why should we put up with this?, If fox hunting with dogs is outlawed, why not Halal?
Andy Capp
post Feb 15 2018, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 15 2018, 09:33 AM) *
Because labour don't do virtue signalling?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43031441

Not that, it’s just I saw your last argument as flawed with bogus assumptions.
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post Feb 15 2018, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 15 2018, 09:33 AM) *
Because labour don't do virtue signalling?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43031441

I think that's hilarious, hold an equality event by barring the greatest (by number) of society. Equality the Corbyn way! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2018, 01:59 PM
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Denmark and I believe Belgium have both banned Halal and Kosher slaughter. No reason why we can't then surely?


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post Feb 15 2018, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 15 2018, 01:59 PM) *
Denmark and I believe Belgium have both banned Halal and Kosher slaughter. No reason why we can't then surely?


Though I applaud their positioning, I do have reservations over the general welfare in these Countries. Denmark in particular produces pigmeat on a massive scale in conditions that can only be described "factory". If they have banned halal and kosher across the board it would be interesting to know the opinions of those religious factions concerned and are they importing their meat from other EU countries?
I'm sure everyone has read the article in last weeks NWN by Andrew Davis regarding the shooting industry, ( I use the word "industry" advisedly), and it's need to put it's house in order. The fact that townies are paying money to stand in a muddy field and blast away at anything that moves with scant regard to the birds welfare is a worrying development. Let us hope that any future legislation will include ALL animals, both domestic and wild.


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post Feb 15 2018, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Feb 15 2018, 03:33 PM) *
Though I applaud their positioning, I do have reservations over the general welfare in these Countries. Denmark in particular produces pigmeat on a massive scale in conditions that can only be described "factory". If they have banned halal and kosher across the board it would be interesting to know the opinions of those religious factions concerned and are they importing their meat from other EU countries?
I'm sure everyone has read the article in last weeks NWN by Andrew Davis regarding the shooting industry, ( I use the word "industry" advisedly), and it's need to put it's house in order. The fact that townies are paying money to stand in a muddy field and blast away at anything that moves with scant regard to the birds welfare is a worrying development. Let us hope that any future legislation will include ALL animals, both domestic and wild.

Hear, hear.
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post Feb 15 2018, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Feb 15 2018, 03:33 PM) *
Though I applaud their positioning, I do have reservations over the general welfare in these Countries. Denmark in particular produces pigmeat on a massive scale in conditions that can only be described "factory". If they have banned halal and kosher across the board it would be interesting to know the opinions of those religious factions concerned and are they importing their meat from other EU countries?
I'm sure everyone has read the article in last weeks NWN by Andrew Davis regarding the shooting industry, ( I use the word "industry" advisedly), and it's need to put it's house in order. The fact that townies are paying money to stand in a muddy field and blast away at anything that moves with scant regard to the birds welfare is a worrying development. Let us hope that any future legislation will include ALL animals, both domestic and wild.


I quite agree, but it's rather interesting that countries we think have a lower standard of animal,welfare than ourselves can manage to abolish what is a dreadful practice we permit in great volume every day.

The practice of importing cruelly treated / slaughtered meat is of course a big probem for us too. Right now we import huge amounts of Danish bacon (just one instance) because Tesco and its peers now they can't blame bogus EU free market rules, claim that Mrs Miggins would revolt if she had to pay more for her Bert's breakfast bacon!

The issue is economic rather than religious.


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post Feb 15 2018, 06:53 PM
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Check your local friendly supermarket pork based products. Pork of the EU is usually Danish.


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post Feb 15 2018, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 15 2018, 06:35 PM) *
I quite agree, but it's rather interesting that countries we think have a lower standard of animal,welfare than ourselves can manage to abolish what is a dreadful practice we permit in great volume every day.

The practice of importing cruelly treated / slaughtered meat is of course a big probem for us too. Right now we import huge amounts of Danish bacon (just one instance) because Tesco and its peers now they can't blame bogus EU free market rules, claim that Mrs Miggins would revolt if she had to pay more for her Bert's breakfast bacon!

The issue is economic rather than religious.


I must admit I have never compared the price of Danish bacon against UK produced because I only buy home grown but we are all aware that the great british housewife will scream from the highest steeple over the weekly food bill yet can not go more than 10 minutes without a mobile phone wedged in her ear.
Whatever the brexit deal throws out it is safe to assume that the day of "cheap" food has had it's lot.


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post Feb 16 2018, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Feb 15 2018, 06:54 PM) *
I must admit I have never compared the price of Danish bacon against UK produced because I only buy home grown but we are all aware that the great british housewife will scream from the highest steeple over the weekly food bill yet can not go more than 10 minutes without a mobile phone wedged in her ear.
Whatever the brexit deal throws out it is safe to assume that the day of "cheap" food has had it's lot.


Frankly, another un-sung benefit of Brexit. Hopefully our over reliance on food imports will significantly reduce too, the EU did cause serious damage to our food supply security, very dangerous for an Island nation.


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post Feb 16 2018, 08:49 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-53...food-chain.html

If this true, it is a bluddy disgrace.

The link above is just one report so it isn't just the Mail reporting it.


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post Feb 16 2018, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 16 2018, 08:49 AM) *
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-53...food-chain.html

If this true, it is a bluddy disgrace.

The link above is just one report so it isn't just the Mail reporting it.

I agree, but I also agree with the final statement: “A spokesman for the animal rights charity Peta said that not stunning animals before they were killed was only one of the ‘unbearably cruel’ processes of getting meat on to the table.”
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post Feb 16 2018, 10:00 AM
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Rather interesting too that Lancashire CC didn't impose a ban because they were told it would introduce community tensions. Showing up again that decisions like this aren't made well by local Councillors. Haven't they understood that not imposing the ban is likely to introduce even greater tensions.



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post Feb 16 2018, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 16 2018, 10:00 AM) *
Rather interesting too that Lancashire CC didn't impose a ban because they were told it would introduce community tensions. Showing up again that decisions like this aren't made well by local Councillors. Haven't they understood that not imposing the ban is likely to introduce even greater tensions.

I love the bit about stunning being controversial. The whole nation was in uproar over animals rights to be termed as 'sentient' to prevent them from being treated cruelly, yet we all appear to not give a **** about this issue. Shows just how shallow people really are.
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post Feb 16 2018, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 16 2018, 10:39 AM) *
I love the bit about stunning being controversial. The whole nation was in uproar over animals rights to be termed as 'sentient' to prevent them from being treated cruelly, yet we all appear to not give a **** about this issue. Shows just how shallow people really are.


Oh so right JSC, "flavour of the day". The only redeeming fact is that by keeping the matter going through such avenues as this forum we may just cause enough embarrassment to get something done.............Though breath holding is not to be recommended. angry.gif


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post Feb 16 2018, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 16 2018, 10:39 AM) *
I love the bit about stunning being controversial. The whole nation was in uproar over animals rights to be termed as 'sentient' to prevent them from being treated cruelly, yet we all appear to not give a **** about this issue. Shows just how shallow people really are.

The ‘uproar’ was about the Monster Raving Tories deciding that is the creatures weren’t sentient.
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post Feb 16 2018, 07:47 PM
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The ‘uproar’ was about the Monster Raving Tories deciding that is the creatures weren’t sentient.

Yes, you Libtards got all steamed up, but it doesn't matter does it, you can call all animals Aunt Daisy for all it matters whilst this barbarity slides past without 'uproar'. Doesn't matter a jot if you call it sentience, not least to the poor beasts being slung up by their hind legs, kicking and screaming while their throats are being hacked into. But Oh No, lets get all sanctimonious about a word in an amendment put forward by the Green Gibberers but turn a lefty Libtard blind eye to the actual cruelty. As I said before, shallow.
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 16 2018, 07:47 PM) *
Yes, you Libtards got all steamed up, but it doesn't matter does it, you can call all animals Aunt Daisy for all it matters whilst this barbarity slides past without 'uproar'. Doesn't matter a jot if you call it sentience, not least to the poor beasts being slung up by their hind legs, kicking and screaming while their throats are being hacked into. But Oh No, lets get all sanctimonious about a word in an amendment put forward by the Green Gibberers but turn a lefty Libtard blind eye to the actual cruelty. As I said before, shallow.

Well the word seemed scary enough for the pheasant shooting, fox ripping, pink wearing, Foie gras munching monster raving blue rinsers to reject the proposal.
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 16 2018, 07:47 PM) *
Yes, you Libtards got all steamed up, but it doesn't matter does it, you can call all animals Aunt Daisy for all it matters whilst this barbarity slides past without 'uproar'. Doesn't matter a jot if you call it sentience, not least to the poor beasts being slung up by their hind legs, kicking and screaming while their throats are being hacked into. But Oh No, lets get all sanctimonious about a word in an amendment put forward by the Green Gibberers but turn a lefty Libtard blind eye to the actual cruelty. As I said before, shallow.

Well the word seemed scary enough for the pheasant shooting, fox ripping, pink wearing, Foie gras munching monster raving blue rinsers to reject the proposal.
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post Feb 16 2018, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 16 2018, 08:50 PM) *
Well the word seemed scary enough for the pheasant shooting, fox ripping, pink wearing, Foie gras munching monster raving blue rinsers to reject the proposal.

So egotistical and dumb you can't even work a forum laugh.gif
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post Feb 16 2018, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 16 2018, 08:50 PM) *
Well the word seemed scary enough for the pheasant shooting, fox ripping, pink wearing, Foie gras munching monster raving blue rinsers to reject the proposal.

Anyone who understandably is against animal cruelty needs to be consistent in said view. You cannot "cherry pick" on an issue like this. The lack of criticism and turning a blind eye won't do. It just lets them down and makes a mockery of any criticism of rich white men chasing foxes in a ridiculous age old practice.
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