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Andy Capp
post Nov 1 2017, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 1 2017, 04:03 PM) *
Labour want to sully and despoil all concepts of loyalty to Britain, honour and service. To them, anything British is bad.

I feel Blair’s military motives were an ill advised attempt at ‘making Britain great again’.
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post Nov 1 2017, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 1 2017, 07:42 PM) *
I feel Blair’s military motives were an ill advised attempt at ‘making Britain great again’.


And there I was thinking he had been in touch with the almighty . Blair was/is an egomaniac who is far more interested in having his name hewn into tablets of granite for posterity than doing something positive for the wretches who bought him to power .
Bush on the other hand was just thick .


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post Nov 1 2017, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2017, 07:22 AM) *
Just to add. I no longer wear one. I used to before the recent wars and attend the ceremony but I won’t now as I see it now as a symbol of support of our recent wars. I’d be tempted to wear a white one but instead I just won’t wear one anymore. Nothing to do with it being a fascist symbol but it’s a shame right wing groups have begun to appropriate it.


I have no doubt you would be a conscientious objector if we had a conventional war again.

You may say this is your choice and indeed it is.

A lot of people though would consider you a coward.
White feather for Newres.
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post Nov 1 2017, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2017, 08:10 PM) *
I have no doubt you would be a conscientious objector if we had a conventional war again.

You may say this is your choice and indeed it is.

A lot of people though would consider you a coward.
White feather for Newres.

D I C K H E A D
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post Nov 1 2017, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2017, 08:58 PM) *
D I C K H E A D


Are you the girl on the roof???

http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/kfo...ndence-day-1996

Thats you that is.
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Andy Capp
post Nov 1 2017, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 1 2017, 09:24 PM) *
Are you the girl on the roof???

http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/kfo...ndence-day-1996

Thats you that is.

Well we can see who the Tories are in that clip.

Mind you, under the circumstances, top of the roof looks like a wise choice.
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post Nov 2 2017, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 1 2017, 10:58 PM) *
D I C K H E A D

Now stop it you lot.
It's not a playground!! dry.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 2 2017, 06:01 AM) *
Now stop it you lot.
It's not a playground!! dry.gif


Detention for the lower 4th cool.gif Somewhat ironical with MPs falling on their swords for making an off the cuff remark regarding a young ladies physique, contributors to this , and one surmises other , forums are free to say what they like about other members . I appreciate an element of banter on a quid pro quo principle but critical rhetoric should be centred on a persons view not them personally .


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post Nov 2 2017, 02:49 PM
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"Corbynmania (ˌkɔːbɪnˈmeɪnɪə) noun: fervent enthusiasm for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the UK Labour Party"

As demonstrated at length on this forum. See also 'Tardism' noun: fervent enthusiasm for being loony.
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post Nov 2 2017, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 2 2017, 02:49 PM) *
"Corbynmania (ˌkɔːbɪnˈmeɪnɪə) noun: fervent enthusiasm for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the UK Labour Party"

As demonstrated at length on this forum. See also 'Tardism' noun: fervent enthusiasm for being loony.


Seems more like an echo chamber for you Britain First lads to me.
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post Nov 2 2017, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 2 2017, 02:49 PM) *
"Corbynmania (ˌkɔːbɪnˈmeɪnɪə) noun: fervent enthusiasm for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the UK Labour Party"

As demonstrated at length on this forum. See also 'Tardism' noun: fervent enthusiasm for being loony.


Seems to me , as a paid up member of the uninitiated society , that the following JC commands has very little to do with his policy more a collective devotion orchestrated by Labour high command .
Tardism ? Isn't that something to do with Dr Who ?


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post Nov 2 2017, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Nov 2 2017, 04:16 PM) *
Seems more like an echo chamber for you Britain First lads to me.


I begin to see what the JSC is getting at. I truly do. Sadly. sad.gif


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post Nov 2 2017, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 2 2017, 04:39 PM) *
I begin to see what the JSC is getting at. I truly do. Sadly. sad.gif

Well that’s how you come across and you accuse anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a Corbynite. I didn’t even vote Labour! That said Britain in Europe under Corbin will b a safer economy whatever he does than a Britain out of it. Pragmatism is what you seething nutters will never learn.
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post Nov 2 2017, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 2 2017, 06:37 PM) *
Well that’s how you come across and you accuse anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a Corbynite. I didn’t even vote Labour! That said Britain in Europe under Corbin will b a safer economy whatever he does than a Britain out of it. Pragmatism is what you seething nutters will never learn.

Please, just go ahead and show your true colours, don't sit on the fence. Oh and by the way, Britain under Corbin will suffer total financial meltdown, just as it did under the last labour government.


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post Nov 2 2017, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 2 2017, 05:44 PM) *
Please, just go ahead and show your true colours, don't sit on the fence. Oh and by the way, Britain under Corbin will suffer total financial meltdown, just as it did under the last labour government.


Is that important ? Every time a Labour government is elected we end up in a financial mess ; each time we vote Conservative the underprivileged feel the effect . Like the eponymous pig cycle no single political party has the ability to break away from the system. Rather like the Planet's orbit of the Sun ,it is the way things are . I have sympathy with both groups but by the same token both parties are responsible for the mess and only be uniting as a common voice will it improve .


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post Nov 2 2017, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 2 2017, 06:37 PM) *
Well that’s how you come across and you accuse anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a Corbynite. I didn’t even vote Labour! That said Britain in Europe under Corbin will b a safer economy whatever he does than a Britain out of it. Pragmatism is what you seething nutters will never learn.

Ahh, seething nutters, how pragmatic is that! Try being 'pragmatic' about other peeps views, for a change. No, course not, not the lefts way is it, just shut down anyone who trys to have an alternate view. Well done. true to form, again.
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post Nov 2 2017, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 2 2017, 06:53 PM) *
Ahh, seething nutters, how pragmatic is that! Try being 'pragmatic' about other peeps views, for a change. No, course not, not the lefts way is it, just shut down anyone who trys to have an alternate view. Well done. true to form, again.

But that's how you and a few others come across! It's you that shuts down the alternative view. Calling me a traitor and a coward because I consider wearing a poppy to be support for Iraq & Afghanistan. I don't mind other people wearing them and it no doubt doesn't mean that to them.
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post Nov 2 2017, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 2 2017, 07:59 PM) *
But that's how you and a few others come across! It's you that shuts down the alternative view. Calling me a traitor and a coward because I consider wearing a poppy to be support for Iraq & Afghanistan. I don't mind other people wearing them and it no doubt doesn't mean that to them.

The whole point of the poppy is in my opinion and I know others think differently is that it's tied intimately to Remembrance day. To remember the nations dead, who (in general) went to fight in defense of our country. So that we could enjoy the freedoms enjoyed by you and I, Iraq and Afghanistan were to some extent politically inspired conflicts which we were never going to win. That said, people still died, they didn't choose to go, they were sent. As a soldier to don't get to pick and choose were you go or who you fight, that's always a political decision and to try to twist that to gain some pitiful little political advantage is in my view incredibly distasteful.

No doubt you will disagree and come back with some clever little comeback but that's up to you really.


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post Nov 2 2017, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 2 2017, 07:14 PM) *
The whole point of the poppy is in my opinion and I know others think differently is that it's tied intimately to Remembrance day. To remember the nations dead, who (in general) went to fight in defense of our country. So that we could enjoy the freedoms enjoyed by you and I, Iraq and Afghanistan were to some extent politically inspired conflicts which we were never going to win. That said, people still died, they didn't choose to go, they were sent. As a soldier to don't get to pick and choose were you go or who you fight, that's always a political decision and to try to twist that to gain some pitiful little political advantage is in my view incredibly distasteful.

No doubt you will disagree and come back with some clever little comeback but that's up to you really.

There you go again. Couldn’t make it up. Prat.
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post Nov 2 2017, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 2 2017, 07:20 PM) *
There you go again. Couldn’t make it up. Prat.

And I was right, he did, even sensible discourse isn't to his taste, find it a bit sad really that some people appear to be so far up their own fundaments that even the sky looks brown to them. Oh well, tried to be civil.


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