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Nov 14 2016, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 14 2016, 01:35 PM) ....and therein lies the rub; can't have your cake and eat it. Mind, with the likes of Sir Philip Green and Fred Goodwin etc.etc. around, we don't even get to see the cake. That is the paradox and therefore there no such thing as a free lunch. If we want stuff to be cheap we need a cheaper labour force. Of course, the problem here is the tax yield from a cheaper labour force is lower, so you need a bigger labour force to raise the tax receipt. The public gets what the public wants.
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Nov 14 2016, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 14 2016, 04:02 PM) And post Osbourn where we've flogged off the last remaining UK businesses, the high end jobs are now elsewhere, so the home labour force becomes low wage too.
It's rather ironic that post Brexit, immigrants of all types still want to come here. Arguably their continuing attempts at entry and continued presence here is indicator that Brexit is seen as giving a far better economic future than Europe. It could just be that the average none English war refugee has never heard of Brexit.
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Nov 14 2016, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 14 2016, 05:44 PM) Most of these are not war torn refugees, that's just a liberal mantra for the lazy minded. Most are economic migrants. And your view is the official Britain First one.
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Nov 14 2016, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 14 2016, 04:59 PM) It could just be that the average none English war refugee has never heard of Brexit. Yes, that's a big possibility. Nonetheless, those that have been interviewed tend to be quite literate. I'd argue that if they had no inkling of which state to aim for, they'd be more than happy to stay anywhere in mainland Europe; or why bother with yet another difficult sea crossing? Additionally, there doesn't seem to be any mass exit from the UK by recent immigrants. Indeed, they seem to be more worried that we will want them to leave. Fortunately for the sake of our health service and our home agriculture to instance just two areas, they seem to be staying.
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Nov 14 2016, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 14 2016, 07:20 PM) And your view is the official Britain First one. No, its a fact? What is wrong with you?
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Nov 14 2016, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 14 2016, 10:15 PM) No, its a fact? What is wrong with you? Facts dont matter to the liberals. Its like some sort of weird mooney cult....
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Nov 14 2016, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 14 2016, 11:19 PM) Facts dont matter to the liberals. Its like some sort of weird mooney cult.... Is that the one where you have to drop yer Keck's?
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Nov 14 2016, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 14 2016, 05:44 PM) Most of these are not war torn refugees, that's just a liberal mantra for the lazy minded. Most are economic migrants. Presumably dear old Norman Tebbitt's dad would have been an economic migrant; getting on his bike and looking for work.
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Nov 14 2016, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 14 2016, 10:56 PM) I don't object t economic migrants, why would I? My grandfather was one (after a fashion) What really annoys me is the liberals tagging everyone who wants in as a refugee! But its true. And they all need to get to blighty cos all the other countries on the way are sooooo nasty.. We also may have 3 million mexicans looking for a new home...😮
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Nov 15 2016, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 14 2016, 10:15 PM) No, its a fact? What is wrong with you? If you have some independent data that demonstrates the nationalities of the people arriving in Europe please point to it. If more than 50% of them are from non war zones then I am happy to accept I'm wrong.
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Nov 15 2016, 06:19 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 15 2016, 06:10 AM) If you have some independent data that demonstrates the nationalities of the people arriving in Europe please point to it. If more than 50% of them are from non war zones then I am happy to accept I'm wrong. Jusy for clarity... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ong...armed_conflictsDo you mean all of these countries? If not, which ones?
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Nov 15 2016, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 15 2016, 06:19 AM) Jusy for clarity... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ong...armed_conflictsDo you mean all of these countries? If not, which ones? You need clarity to define a war zone? Ok, it's not Market Place on a Friday night.
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