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post May 30 2016, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 30 2016, 10:50 AM) *
I didn't see Blair's performsnce as that bad; he was only really asked a couple of questions. He balked at the question of seeing the report on his war FUBAR.


Personally I think he is poison and should be treated with the same contempt as the Islamic fundamentalists that murder innocent people. Should be not allowed air time

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post May 30 2016, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 30 2016, 06:57 PM) *
Personally I think he is poison and should be treated with the same contempt as the Islamic fundamentalists that murder innocent people. Should be not allowed air time

I tend to agree, but he didn't shy from the big decision; our current Tory douche did and some argue the result was just about the same.
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post Jun 7 2016, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 20 2016, 08:38 PM) *
I'm out. Not because of immigration. I just like to think of us as an independent nation who can make laws
that are not overruled.

The problem with being in the "out" camp is that you are instantly branded as racist by small minded people.

Now we'll get 3 months of "***" from both camps scaremongering... angry.gif

Out leads 3-0 amongst the forumisters.


Guess I was wrong about the scaremongering back in February. We better vote in or better vote our or we are all............doomed. zombie apocalypse I tell ya.
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post Jun 7 2016, 09:11 PM
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any body watch the debate tonite? DC came over as a one trick pony headed for the knackers yard. NF was coherent and presented the better case.


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post Jun 7 2016, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 7 2016, 10:11 PM) *
any body watch the debate tonite? DC came over as a one trick pony headed for the knackers yard. NF was coherent and presented the better case.


Saw it and haven't changed my mind. Out.
The accusation of racism was utter row locks.
DC's 'little Englander' jibe was also utter crap.


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post Jun 8 2016, 06:02 AM
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I see Archbishop Welby has called Farage a fear-mongering racist.


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post Jun 8 2016, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 8 2016, 07:02 AM) *
I see Archbishop Welby has called Farage a fear-mongering racist.

So? It's the old guard trickery, use the word immigration and get called racist. All from a man who lives in a palace and worships a being that lives in the sky! Scary stuff, enough to convince me. NOT!
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post Jun 8 2016, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2016, 07:16 AM) *
So? It's the old guard trickery, use the word immigration and get called racist. All from a man who lives in a palace and worships a being that lives in the sky! Scary stuff, enough to convince me. NOT!



I liked the response it was given. Try reading the article and not the headline. Even then though, a bag of salt comes to mind.


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post Jun 8 2016, 06:34 AM
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I lost interest when Cameron started trying to say that if we stayed we could lead Europe in the electric car industry. ? I mean, to lead within an industry you first need to have one. All he bleated on about was how we would magically cause a word recession if we left laugh.gif

I'm afraid that after a lifetime of voting for the Tories I've finally had enough, their lies and scare mongering over this issue have lost them my vote at the next election.


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post Jun 8 2016, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 8 2016, 07:34 AM) *
I lost interest when Cameron started trying to say that if we stayed we could lead Europe in the electric car industry. ? I mean, to lead within an industry you first need to have one. All he bleated on about was how we would magically cause a word recession if we left laugh.gif

I'm afraid that after a lifetime of voting for the Tories I've finally had enough, their lies and scare mongering over this issue have lost them my vote at the next election.


And mine. We always knew Cameron came from an elitist background but the EU referendum has shown just how totally out of touch he is.
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post Jun 8 2016, 07:55 AM
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And now the remain camp are in panic as, believe it or not, half a million people left it until the final 2 hours to register to vote.
The web site crashed.
Cameroon and the "In Camp" are now calling for an extension to the deadline as they believe the wallies that left it so late would have voted "in".
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post Jun 8 2016, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 8 2016, 08:55 AM) *
And now the remain camp are in panic as, believe it or not, half a million people left it until the final 2 hours to register to vote.
The web site crashed.
Cameroon and the "In Camp" are now calling for an extension to the deadline as they believe the wallies that left it so late would have voted "in".

I imagine Brexitiers would be in a panic too if there is an extension.
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post Jun 8 2016, 08:23 AM
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I've tended to be Brexit, but have been disappointed by the arguments from them for a good reason to leave.
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post Jun 8 2016, 08:29 AM
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I note that the Remainers are bleating that the Leave campaign has no polices, economic or otherwise, if we vote to leave.

They seem to miss the point that this is a referendum and not an election.

Once the vote has taken place and the results known, it is for the government of the day to set the necessary policies in line with the referendum vote
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post Jun 8 2016, 10:54 AM
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A classic

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-36...-try-again.html


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post Jun 8 2016, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 8 2016, 11:54 AM) *

Although in fairness this isn't really the EU's fault as it was Blighty that introduced the right to a fair trial and habeas corpus back in the thirteenth century, but hey.


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post Jun 8 2016, 12:04 PM
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Its the EU interfering and overruling a members right to enforce its own laws.


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post Jun 8 2016, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 8 2016, 01:04 PM) *
Its the EU interfering and overruling a members right to enforce its own laws.

Is see it more that a country is forced to be fair and organise its laws properly. In the old days, Liverpool fans, Irish Republicans and miners were 'yob scum' that deserved to be treated lower than the law demanded.

Like I said, I have not heard any good argument for what will be fixed by leaving.

I like the recent meme I read about where Brexit meant being left alone on a small island with the Monster Raving Tories.
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Well you would cool.gif


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post Jun 8 2016, 05:32 PM
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[quote name='Turin Machine' date='Jun 8 2016, 07:34 AM' post='109936']
I lost interest when Cameron started trying to say that if we stayed we could lead Europe in the electric car industry. ? I mean, to lead within an industry you first need to have one.
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