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Posted by: Strafin Mar 10 2015, 07:17 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988412/Top-Gear-s-Jeremy-Clarkson-suspended-BBC-fracas-producer.html
I'm not a fan, but he does seem to have either a big or a loud fan base so I wonder what will happen.
I personally think he got too big for his boots about 5 years ago, and Top Gear has gone downhill since. I don't know what the viewing figures are, but I understand it is one of the shows that actually makes, rather than costs the BBC money so wondered what people,s thoughts were....
Posted by: HeatherW Mar 10 2015, 07:20 PM
He makes the BBC a lot of money so I presume they will go through the emotions and then say naughty naughty and don't do it again and get back to work.
Posted by: Don Mar 10 2015, 07:36 PM
Howdy all,
I can't stand Clarkson and I am not into cars. To me they are tools to get you around from A to B. I don't know what he has done but I am sure he is now on his last legs.
Don
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 10 2015, 11:29 PM
I can't stand Clarkson and I am not into cars. To me they are tools to get you around from A to B. I don't know what he has done but I am sure he is now on his last legs.
Don
Great show, funny man. Always pushing the envelope of what the droids at the beeb consider acceptable. A breath of fresh air in a stifled, stultified world of political correctness.
Posted by: x2lls Mar 10 2015, 11:50 PM
'Like'!
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 11 2015, 12:47 AM
A 'fight' breaks-out in a TV production, whoop-de-do! Never mind, we'll just see him on the 'other side' now!
Posted by: On the edge Mar 11 2015, 09:20 AM
Ummm
The unbiased news provider creates the news and the 'uncommercial' broadcaster doesn't advertise......
For me, the story is about the need to abolish the licence fee and properly re define what public service broadcasting is all about.
Nonetheless, brilliant diversion tactic BBC!
Posted by: Mr Brown Mar 11 2015, 03:43 PM
I wonder why they actually made so much of this. There is more than enough real stuff on the news wires. The size of the BBC has always worried me because it's the state broadcaster.
Posted by: Spider Mar 11 2015, 04:49 PM
I am a great fan of Top Gear and watch all the episodes. I just think this is a storm in a tea cup. They probably will have a discussion behind the scenes and get back to making the BBC a lot of money. After all it is one of the successful programmes they put out. Jeremy Clarkson is Top Gear. After all the BBC covered up people like Jimmy Savile and he has done a lot worse than Clarkson could ever do.
Posted by: Spider Mar 11 2015, 04:50 PM
If a fight did breakout then I hope they filmed it as it will be a good show.
Posted by: motormad Mar 11 2015, 05:12 PM
The unbiased news provider creates the news and the 'uncommercial' broadcaster doesn't advertise......
For me, the story is about the need to abolish the licence fee and properly re define what public service broadcasting is all about.
Nonetheless, brilliant diversion tactic BBC!
Sorry - How does this at all related to License Fees.
Posted by: motormad Mar 11 2015, 05:13 PM
^ agree.
He probably is a **** in RL.
But he's funny on TV so I don't care.
Posted by: Spider Mar 11 2015, 05:26 PM
Doesn't everything point to the license free, one way or another?
Posted by: user23 Mar 11 2015, 05:27 PM
Posted by: Simon Kirby Mar 11 2015, 05:39 PM
I do with you'd stop saying stuff I agree with.
Posted by: user23 Mar 11 2015, 05:53 PM
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 11 2015, 06:41 PM
Cobblers.
First it is an allegation (you both would be the first to reject trial by media, I'm sure). Second, saying something deemed to be racist doesn't stop someone from being an envelope pusher.
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 11 2015, 06:45 PM
That's what the beeb think. Didn't know WBC worked with the BBC.
Posted by: Spider Mar 11 2015, 07:23 PM
What is in a letter or two?
Posted by: HeatherW Mar 11 2015, 07:32 PM
No. Occasionally a conscience raises its ugly head to guide us
Posted by: user23 Mar 11 2015, 08:12 PM
First it is an allegation (you both would be the first to reject trial by media, I'm sure). Second, saying something deemed to be racist doesn't stop someone from being an envelope pusher.
To me, he seems a misogynistic, middle aged, middle class, throwback to the 80s.
A role model and an excuse for others' slack attitudes, but hey, that's just how he comes across to me.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 11 2015, 09:07 PM
To me, he seems a misogynistic, middle aged, middle class, throwback to the 80s.
A role model and an excuse for others' slack attitudes, but hey, that's just how he comes across to me.
If
"push (the edge of) the envelope
to move beyond the limit of what has usually been done or was the accepted standard"
is correct, then I'd say that sums him up.
Posted by: user23 Mar 11 2015, 09:10 PM
"push (the edge of) the envelope
to move beyond the limit of what has usually been done or was the accepted standard"
is correct, then I'd say that sums him up.
Posted by: Strafin Mar 11 2015, 09:30 PM
To me, he seems a misogynistic, middle aged, middle class, throwback to the 80s.
A role model and an excuse for others' slack attitudes, but hey, that's just how he comes across to me.
I agree with User 23
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 11 2015, 10:06 PM
Had he not said 'misogynistic', so would I,
Posted by: On the edge Mar 11 2015, 10:23 PM
All very interesting BUT if Top Gear was shown on one of the commercial channels, which is really where it belongs, the Clarkson issue would not have made the news - let alone as the lead story. Does anyone else not wonder why?
Posted by: Strafin Mar 11 2015, 11:02 PM
I suspect it would have, this is a big tv personality, with a large following, who punched a producer and got suspended. It's quite big news I think and would have been reported on in most other circumstances.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 12 2015, 12:54 AM
I think he's toast, which will be a shame as I used to enjoy his journals and documentaries, I doubt he will get as good support from independent production teams.
Posted by: Biker1 Mar 12 2015, 10:20 AM
It has been suggested in the media that he will walk from the BBC even if cleared by them.
Posted by: Exhausted Mar 12 2015, 05:20 PM
I just wonder what the producer did or said to end up with a punch on the nose. Probably wanted GC to run a Nissan Micra around the track.
Posted by: user23 Mar 12 2015, 05:39 PM
Can anyone offer specific examples of him "pushing the envelope" as is claimed he does?
Posted by: Strafin Mar 12 2015, 07:38 PM
He allegedly was the issue when Clarkson and his entourage ended up being over two hours
Late for their dinner, and were refused hot food when they eventually turned up. He was the person responsible for the miscommunication in timings, according to the Clarkson camp.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 12 2015, 08:04 PM
I see he was at Stamford Bridge last night, so his week hasn't been the best! The producer is speaking through a lawyer, so I suspect this issue won't just disappear.
Posted by: x2lls Mar 12 2015, 10:05 PM
There's been no confirmation of what actually happened so it's all media , and forum members, speculation.
Posted by: Strafin Mar 13 2015, 07:56 AM
And a witness, James May.
Posted by: x2lls Mar 13 2015, 10:29 PM
To name just one.
Posted by: James_Trinder Mar 15 2015, 02:30 PM
To me pushing the envelope is all about testing what you can get away with and that is exactly what he did with his Argentinian stunt. I rarely watch Top Gear myself and wouldn't say that I was the biggest fan of Jeremy Clarkson but was lucky enough to be in the audience at a live recording last month and warmed to him slightly when he touched upon the death of the mining industry in his hometown of Doncaster.
Posted by: user23 Mar 15 2015, 08:37 PM
He taunted a country the UK defeated in a war and when things turned nasty, from what was shown on television he ran away and left his production crew to deal with the very unruly mobs that attacked them. Seems he's fine to allegedly punch one of the same production crew in the face over a steak dinner though. I bet they're glad to see the back of him.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 15 2015, 10:09 PM
He taunted a country the UK defeated in a war and when things turned nasty, from what was shown on television he ran away and left his production crew to deal with the very unruly mobs that attacked them. Seems he's fine to allegedly punch one of the same production crew in the face over a steak dinner though. I bet they're glad to see the back of him.
Quite.
I very much doubt many at the BBC will be happy to see the back of him, not to mention how much of his controversies was all his own work.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Mar 15 2015, 11:08 PM
I still don't get what envelope it is he's supposed to be pushing. Being offensive is hardly innovative, and it's been done much better (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSrXqOI9988). As humour goes I'd say that Clarkson was really rather 70's establishment middle-of-the-road pedestrian (ironic, no?), a humour predicated on middle-aged middle-class bigotry and very much the tired old schtick that satirists on the edge have mocked since ancient Greece.
Posted by: Biker1 Mar 16 2015, 08:49 AM
He don't like trains or motorbikes either!!
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 16 2015, 09:42 AM
That might be the case in the land of Kirby, but that doesn't stop it from being envelope pushing, but to say it is 'middle age/class bigotry' is suggesting bigotry even exists in people like yourself?
But like I said earlier, all this is to assume all the bad stuff is all his own work. Clarkson seems to be not half as funny when he is not reading from a script.
Posted by: Mr Brown Mar 16 2015, 11:46 AM
I think Simon Kirby is quite right. His friend A A Gill in the Sunday Times said Clarkson writes his own scrips; thats why he's so busy and stressed at work, hence the punch up at the end of the hard working day. I must try it some day myself. He's just an ageing comedian who is simply going the way of such people - Russell Brand is another. So, I'd agree his 'act' isn't pushing any envelopes, it's simply boorish; just playing the naughty boy in class. Funny for a while, but not innovative, edgy or even different.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 16 2015, 12:37 PM
There's more than one way to 'push an envelope'. 'Pushing the envelope' is a broad and rather meaningless statement as it means different things to different people; I'd have used irreverent.
As for innovative and edgy: there's nothing new under the sun and most if not all humour has it's time.
Posted by: motormad Mar 16 2015, 01:14 PM
I've never been bored watching Clarkson.
I am bored reading your post.
Jokes.
Posted by: motormad Mar 16 2015, 01:15 PM
He taunted a country the UK defeated in a war and when things turned nasty, from what was shown on television he ran away and left his production crew to deal with the very unruly mobs that attacked them. Seems he's fine to allegedly punch one of the same production crew in the face over a steak dinner though. I bet they're glad to see the back of him.
oh, just as an FYI regarding the numberplate, it was a genuine number plate for the car, had been on it since 1994.
Long before the BBC had even planned a trip.
No fakery there.
Posted by: Strafin Mar 16 2015, 02:27 PM
Do you have a factual source to back that up MM? Only Clarkson lies, a lot, and he had that second set of plates...
Posted by: user23 Mar 16 2015, 05:43 PM
Long before the BBC had even planned a trip.
No fakery there.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 16 2015, 06:49 PM
That seems to support MM's point.
"And yesterday the dealer who sold the Porsche to the BBC complete with its original H982 FKL plates admitted the show’s staff knew the car’s registration number before they completed its purchase."
Whether it is a coincidence and all JC's own work or idea is another matter of course!
Posted by: On the edge Mar 16 2015, 08:49 PM
Here we are a few weeks from a general election and a minor TV personality clashes with the BBCs HR policy is the major topic for discussion round here. Willy Whitelaw was right about stirring up apathy!!
Posted by: user23 Mar 16 2015, 09:26 PM
Posted by: On the edge Mar 17 2015, 06:50 AM
Quite true; but its not a complaint. In fact, I'm quite pleased because demonstrates there is not too much wrong with things right now...
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 17 2015, 08:13 AM
Don't worry, it will turn out to be the councils fault soon. Either that or Clarkson will be revealed as a secret allotment hater. That'll provoke more interest here.
Posted by: motormad Mar 17 2015, 11:26 AM
You are a typical council luddite aren't you
Reading into what you want.
The CAR ORIGINALLY had the H982 FKL.
You can look for offence in anything you want. One completely moronic person said "OH LOOK 1982 FALKLANDS WAR THEY'RE MOCKING IT" and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.
I've seen cars that have (L=Random letter) L#### GAY on the number plate but does that mean it's taking the mick out of homosexuals?
No.
Posted by: Simon Kirby Mar 17 2015, 06:21 PM
I don't see why you have to be snide about it. I have a legitimate complaint, it is enormously important to me personally, and I have no other recourse to justice. I would sooner not be airing my grievance here - I find it quite as humiliating as you find me tiresome.
Posted by: user23 Mar 17 2015, 07:49 PM
Posted by: x2lls Mar 17 2015, 08:31 PM
If I recall correctly, THEY waged war on US!!
Posted by: user23 Mar 18 2015, 07:53 AM
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 18 2015, 09:21 AM
Sadly I think user's right, but I'm the world's worst at taking criticism! Well, one of them! About joint twelfth judging by the other posters here anyway!
Posted by: Cognosco Mar 18 2015, 04:44 PM
You won't have long to wait for another Council criticism if they keep to their usual standard!
Must admit they must have been keeping a strict eye on Councillors, there must be a gagging order in place or something.........is there an election looming?
Posted by: Exhausted Mar 18 2015, 05:55 PM
Nothing to do with Maggie then.
Posted by: motormad Mar 19 2015, 03:23 PM
Who's to say.
Certainly not you.
Posted by: user23 Mar 19 2015, 09:43 PM
Certainly not you.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 19 2015, 09:48 PM
I quite agree that it wasn't coincidence, but the odds are more like ~30,000,000/1 (the amount of cars licensed in the UK).
Posted by: user23 Mar 19 2015, 10:26 PM
Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Mar 19 2015, 10:32 PM
Who gives a sh!t? really?
The sooner the BBC license fee is cancelled (no reason to not now as everything is digital and can be encoded) the better.
Personally I don't watch any programs on BBC and would welcome this (nor listen to any of the radio programs)
They have an agenda, and I personally don't like it.
I see old Russell Brand is now back. Bet they don't let Clarkson back though. I wonder why.....
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 19 2015, 11:20 PM
Come to think of it, getting 82 FLK from all available permutations is a 1 in 10*10*26*26*26 chance, or 1 in 1,757,600 is it not?
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 19 2015, 11:22 PM
The sooner the BBC license fee is cancelled (no reason to not now as everything is digital and can be encoded) the better.
Personally I don't watch any programs on BBC and would welcome this (nor listen to any of the radio programs)
They have an agenda, and I personally don't like it.
I see old Russell Brand is now back. Bet they don't let Clarkson back though. I wonder why.....
I believe the complete opposite and hate the thought of a mass media outlet as you evangelise.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 20 2015, 10:00 AM
Yes, that's quite right BUT having only one BBC means we have the worst of both Worlds. A private oligopoly and a public monopoly, both unaccountable and both out of control. There is another way; at minimum break the BBC into parts and fund by levy on the commercial stations.
Posted by: motormad Mar 20 2015, 12:25 PM
I think they went more for the car than the numberplate.
If H982 FKL was on a Metro I somehow doubt they would have bought that.
Posted by: Strafin Mar 20 2015, 03:17 PM
I suspect it was bought separately and put on the car, whether it came from the same place or not. Nobody will ever know though because the garage has been bought off, Clarkson is a liar and the BBC won't incriminate themselves.
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 20 2015, 03:28 PM
" Now: thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request to the DVLA I can reveal the truth: Top Gear did not put the plate on the car (bang goes a good story!).
The DVLA have disclosed that the registration mark H982 FKL was the original registration mark on the Porsche 928 GT, which was first registered on 30 May 1991.
In March 1998, the number went into DVLA reserves while a personalised registration mark was applied to the car. When that personalised plat was removed in May 2001, the original H982 FKL mark was reallocated.
The H982 FKL mark has never been applied to any other vehicle."
Posted by: Strafin Mar 20 2015, 04:40 PM
Now that's interesting. Fair enough then!
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 20 2015, 04:51 PM
- And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
- Well?
- We did do the nose.
- The nose?
- And the hat. But she is a witch !
- Did you dress her up like this?
- No, no!
- Yes. A bit.
- She has got a wart!
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 20 2015, 04:58 PM
I've never been convinced that the plate was bought and applied, but I am sure they looked for 82 FLK reg cars; however; I couldn't give a toss if they did or didn't, I thought it was funny.
Posted by: motormad Mar 25 2015, 04:38 PM
He's officially been sacked, announced today.
RIP Top Gear 
Posted by: Strafin Mar 25 2015, 04:45 PM
RIP Top Gear
He's not been sacked, they are not renewing his contract. Same result though. I can't help but think for every fan of Top Gear now who doesn't like this decision, there is a fan of proper Top Gear who is.
Posted by: GMR Mar 25 2015, 04:54 PM
True, he wasn't sacked.
I wouldn't be surprised if he and the other two go to another channel. Whether you like them or not they are popular, and not just in this country.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 25 2015, 09:50 PM
The BBC had no choice but to 'let him go'. I'm sad to see the end of this show in its present form, despite what people say, the offensive elements in TG were infrequent and mild, but some of the Christmas Specials were captivating and he was a super 'metaphorist'!
Posted by: x2lls Mar 25 2015, 09:57 PM
What is 'proper top gear'?
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 25 2015, 10:05 PM
That's the one where they roadtest Ford Mondeos in Swindon and the Viva around Milton Keynes.
Posted by: user23 Mar 25 2015, 10:17 PM
Great news. The tired old format needed changing, just like it did in 2002.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 25 2015, 10:24 PM
This is getting tiring User.....I couldn't agree more!
Posted by: Strafin Mar 25 2015, 10:48 PM
How it was when they actually tested some cars and talked about the motoring world in a manner that meant you could,actually glean some information from it. Proper might not be a fair description, but less of the pretend races and stuff.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 25 2015, 10:52 PM
By 2001 it had sunk through lack of interest. In 2015 that isn't the case.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 26 2015, 07:19 AM
Perhaps then, it's just really good marketing - out on the crest of the wave. A bit like Fawlty Towers; no more programmes were made, so it keeps its value.
Posted by: user23 Mar 26 2015, 08:21 AM
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 26 2015, 09:11 AM
Yet the BBC still decided to drop the show due to disinterest.
Posted by: motormad Mar 26 2015, 02:17 PM
They do review cars quite often. Just not ones people would buy because no-one is interested in a Hyundai i20. We want to see Pagani's!
To a motoring enthusiast you don't care about boot capacity or how long the warranty is, you care about how a car FEELS and how it makes YOU feel, which Top Gear understood and worked on brilliantly.
If you want to learn the boring information about a car, read a magazine or watch WhatCar's youtube channel lol.
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 26 2015, 03:47 PM
To a motoring enthusiast you don't care about boot capacity or how long the warranty is, you care about how a car FEELS and how it makes YOU feel, which Top Gear understood and worked on brilliantly.
If you want to learn the boring information about a car, read a magazine or watch WhatCar's youtube channel lol.
No, no and thrice times no. If you want car reviews, Bob Flavins yer man!
http://thenextgear.com/
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 26 2015, 03:56 PM
Or Fifth Gear.
Posted by: user23 Mar 27 2015, 02:57 PM
Top Gear needs to change. Here's my suggestions:
All Female Presenters
I know Angela Rippon was the first presenter of Top Gear, but since then it's been male dominated. Get Rippon back, plus a couple of others, Victoria Wood and perhaps Fiona Bruce.
Drop the Supercar Reviews
No one likes to see rich posers talking about cars most of us can't afford. Replace them with reviewing family hatchbacks, plus tips on safe driving every week, to help save lives.
The Star in the Car
Keep this but make it about who can give the comfiest, smoothest ride, rather than the quickest. Also, there would be no leader board, it's the taking part that counts.
News
Keep this, but feature things that matter, such as EU motoring directives and new child car seats.
Top Gear Challenges
These should involve every day tasks so they relate to more people. Going shopping, picking the kids from school, etc.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 27 2015, 05:59 PM
Oh yes, we could have that Judith Chalmers as well. What about a White Van challenge? To find the most innovative way to get from two city centre addresses. Or ask viewers to send in windscreen camera results to find Britains most irritating driver....yes the possibilities are endless.
Posted by: HJD Mar 27 2015, 06:46 PM
All Female Presenters
I know Angela Rippon was the first presenter of Top Gear, but since then it's been male dominated. Get Rippon back, plus a couple of others, Victoria Wood and perhaps Fiona Bruce.
Drop the Supercar Reviews
No one likes to see rich posers talking about cars most of us can't afford. Replace them with reviewing family hatchbacks, plus tips on safe driving every week, to help save lives.
The Star in the Car
Keep this but make it about who can give the comfiest, smoothest ride, rather than the quickest. Also, there would be no leader board, it's the taking part that counts.
News
Keep this, but feature things that matter, such as EU motoring directives and new child car seats.
Top Gear Challenges
These should involve every day tasks so they relate to more people. Going shopping, picking the kids from school, etc.
Ideas like this is why the original format was so popular !!
'The Big Allotment Challenge' would be more exciting
.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 27 2015, 07:16 PM
'The Big Allotment Challenge' would be more exciting
.Actually, yes it would - The Big Allotment Challenge could be an ideal outlet for Clarkson, particularly if he was given a tank and directions to the Town Hall....even I'd watch that
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 27 2015, 09:29 PM
Meanwhile back with our valiant boys in blue.
" North Yorkshire police said they would take Tymon’s statement into account but they are investigating the incident.
There remains the possibility of legal action by Clarkson over the circumstances of his departure and, potentially,regarding future earnings from the Top Gear brandwith which the presenter is inextricably linked and did so much to build. Clarkson’s lawyer declined to comment on Friday."
So, they won't take action over countless children being sexually abused be Asian gangs in Bradford and similar offenses in Oxford (probably not in their remit) but they can magically find the resources to prosecute Jeremy Clarkson. Oh, and descend like the wrath of God (only with helicopters and presumably a S.W.A.T team) on the empty house of Cliff Richards (and find the time to invite the BBC along for the show). Couldn't make it up? Well, yes you could. Just wouldn't ever find a publisher though.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 27 2015, 09:40 PM
" North Yorkshire police said they would take Tymon’s statement into account but they are investigating the incident.
There remains the possibility of legal action by Clarkson over the circumstances of his departure and, potentially,regarding future earnings from the Top Gear brandwith which the presenter is inextricably linked and did so much to build. Clarkson’s lawyer declined to comment on Friday."
So, they won't take action over countless children being sexually abused be Asian gangs in Bradford and similar offenses in Oxford (probably not in their remit) but they can magically find the resources to prosecute Jeremy Clarkson. Oh, and descend like the wrath of God (only with helicopters and presumably a S.W.A.T team) on the empty house of Cliff Richards (and find the time to invite the BBC along for the show). Couldn't make it up? Well, yes you could. Just wouldn't ever find a publisher though.
Yes, wholly agree, total waste of Police time and effort. Also, and just as bad in my book, it simply keeps the non story running.
Posted by: user23 Mar 28 2015, 09:14 AM
Posted by: Biker1 Mar 28 2015, 09:21 AM
All Female Presenters
I know Angela Rippon was the first presenter of Top Gear, but since then it's been male dominated. Get Rippon back, plus a couple of others, Victoria Wood and perhaps Fiona Bruce.
Drop the Supercar Reviews
No one likes to see rich posers talking about cars most of us can't afford. Replace them with reviewing family hatchbacks, plus tips on safe driving every week, to help save lives.
The Star in the Car
Keep this but make it about who can give the comfiest, smoothest ride, rather than the quickest. Also, there would be no leader board, it's the taking part that counts.
News
Keep this, but feature things that matter, such as EU motoring directives and new child car seats.
Top Gear Challenges
These should involve every day tasks so they relate to more people. Going shopping, picking the kids from school, etc.
This format is very good for a motoring programme and I agree it would be valuable and watchable to many.
However this is not what Top Gear evolved into.
Top gear is/was an entertainment show with comedy and escapism at it's core.
Yes it is/was a motoring show but based purely on entertainment and not on education or information.
As for tips on safe driving, the message given by Top Gear could not be further from this if they tried, with the emphasis being on fast dangerous driving style and the type of car only available to rich men who lack something in other departments!!
Top Gear is/was great fun and entertainment and I am sorry to see it go, but the sort of programme you describe User would need to be in addition to and not replace it.
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 28 2015, 09:48 AM
However this is not what Top Gear evolved into.
Top gear is/was an entertainment show with comedy and escapism at it's core.
Yes it is/was a motoring show but based purely on entertainment and not on education or information.
As for tips on safe driving, the message given by Top Gear could not be further from this if they tried, with the emphasis being on fast dangerous driving style and the type of car only available to rich men who lack something in other departments!!
Top Gear is/was great fun and entertainment and I am sorry to see it go, but the sort of programme you describe User would need to be in addition to and not replace it.
"Irony is wasted on the stupid"
Oscar Wilde.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 28 2015, 10:05 AM
Oscar Wilde.
That's a bit unkind!
Posted by: Turin Machine Mar 28 2015, 10:21 AM
Only joshin wit ya!
Posted by: Strafin Mar 28 2015, 05:13 PM
Top Gear hasn't ended, the BBC could continue it with any number of other people. To be fair the format as it is was getting a bit boring. Let's have a race spanning thousands of miles and several days and all still finish within minutes of each other, that's believable! Fair enough I understand Clarkson wrote most of it, but it wouldn't be hard to emulate it and make it better.
Posted by: Biker1 Mar 28 2015, 10:28 PM
Oscar Wilde.
I'm sorry??
I'm "stupid" because of what??
Your "joshin" is wasted on me!
User is always straightforward yes?
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 29 2015, 09:41 AM
It might be for you, but TG was/is still very popular.
Posted by: x2lls Mar 29 2015, 01:13 PM
However this is not what Top Gear evolved into.
Top gear is/was an entertainment show with comedy and escapism at it's core.
Yes it is/was a motoring show but based purely on entertainment and not on education or information.
As for tips on safe driving, the message given by Top Gear could not be further from this if they tried, with the emphasis being on fast dangerous driving style and the type of car only available to rich men who lack something in other departments!!
Top Gear is/was great fun and entertainment and I am sorry to see it go, but the sort of programme you describe User would need to be in addition to and not replace it.
On custom laid tracks, not the public road system.
Posted by: Strafin Mar 29 2015, 03:15 PM
I didn't say it wasn't, I said that the current format was getting boring. Now could be a good opportunity for the makers to look at it.
Posted by: Andy Capp Mar 29 2015, 03:55 PM
I'll re-phrase it: because some people like yourself found it boring doesn't mean it was and viewing figures suggest it wasn't; however, as Clarkson is now not a part of the team, a re-boot is a certainty.
Posted by: Biker1 Mar 29 2015, 04:59 PM
Yes, but come on, you must agree that it encouraged a certain type of gentleman to drive in a, shall we say, "inappropriate" manner?
Posted by: Strafin Mar 29 2015, 07:29 PM
What were the viewing figures for 2013 vs 2014 vs 2015? Was there an increase?
Posted by: Strafin Mar 29 2015, 07:34 PM
To be fair I can't find the figures, but I can find articles claiming they are increasing year on year. However that doesn't mean the show is getting better, that could be down to all sorts of reasons. Anyway, it is my opinion that the show hasn't changed in any way for a long time, the storylines are all very similar every week and that a change isn't a bad thing. I stopped watching a while ago though.
Posted by: blackdog Mar 29 2015, 10:52 PM
I'm an occasional watcher - it is usually entertaining in parts. Driving super cars around a track doesn't interest me in the slightest and the 'star in a reasonably priced car' section would be far better if the chat show element was longer and they didn't bother to show the lap. I watch for the humour, not the cars.
Perhaps Clarkson's next incarnation will be as an ITV chat show host.
Posted by: On the edge Mar 30 2015, 07:29 AM
I think the secret is out. It seems Sky are in advanced negotiating with 'the team' for a new show...based on same format. Anyone recall Clarkson crowing at his last contract renewal that once his salary had been paid; there would be very little for the production.
Oh what a surprise!
Posted by: Mr Brown Mar 30 2015, 09:06 AM
Oh what a surprise!
That does seem to fit. Jeremy Clarkson is a member of the Chipping Norton set after all. It must be interactive TV for the masses - now we can all say we've been taken for a ride by Top Gear.
Posted by: Berkshirelad Mar 31 2015, 09:55 AM
Better odds than winning Euromillions and people do that quite often...
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